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Nov 12, 2013 10:59:34   #
Bobbee
 
anotherview wrote:
Good morning. I own the Mini Pocket Wizard flash control gear, but it proved flaky and unreliable in practice. Often I could not get it to repeat set flash lighting. Etc. Maybe I should revisit this gear to give it another try.

Meanwhile, I use Cowboy Studio flash triggers. They only trigger the flash unit, and the flash unit requires manual adjustment for flash output. But I do not mind that much. Besides, once set, the lighting for my studio work needs no further adjustment.

You may wish to give these manual flash trigers a try:

http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-NPT-04-Channel-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B002W3IXZW

Note that you will need one receiver for each flash unit in use in your setup.

The one transmitter goes in the camera's hotshoe, and it sends a triggering signal to all the receivers.

So far, I've found this gear reliable in my home studio.

Two notes: 1. The batteries in the receivers will drain if you leave them switched on. Switch them off when not in use.

2. Each receiver has two dip switches allowing a setting for one of four channels. If near another flash triggering setup using a similar radio frequency to your flash triggers, then you'd want to select one of the other four channels to avoid interference.

But if in isolation from other setups, you could just push all four dip switches to the same position on each receiver. I do so by pushing all dip switches forward. The one transmitter than triggers all receivers.

I agree flash lighting takes time to learn. It has its own learning curve, but I've found it worth doing because then many more photo opportunities present themselves.

Here's one I did using bounced flash lighting in a restaurant.

Good luck.
Good morning. I own the Mini Pocket Wizard flash ... (show quote)


Thanks, I was looking at the Cowboy triggers and then went with Pocket's. Go figure. I have an SB900 and when I am taking alot of flashes it seizes up on me because of thermal overload. A known issue. I like the flash but not what it does in these situations. I have another thread going and I am looking at the Quantum Trio for my Nikon. these have the radio build in and can fire thousands of flashes in a row without overheating. And seem to be, from the write up, much more powerful. But are expensive, but I do believe in that saying 'you get what you pay for', or the Russian saying 'by cheap 10 times, buy good once'. So I am probably going down that route. This weekend I was doing a shoot and the SB900 locked up on me 3 times. Very frustrating. Had to switch to my 600's. So I will keep the SB's for other tings and backups.

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Nov 12, 2013 11:40:30   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Hi: Good morning. Here’s that technique online that shows step-by-step how to set the neutral gray point in an image using Photoshop.

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An Easy Way To Find Neutral Gray In A Photo With Photoshop

http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-editing/neutral-gray/
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Note: The Layers used have to be rasterized for this technique to work properly. You may rasterize a layer by clicking on it. Doing so brings up a menu containing the option for rasterizing. Click on this option to rasterize the layer.

If you need to rasterize more than one layer, then hold down the Shift key while clicking on each layer to highlight it. Then bring up the menu to rasterize the selected layers.

Second note: This technique uses a small area to represent the neutral gray in the image.

I use a refinement of this approach, by dragging the Threshold slider to the left while zooming in the image as necessary until the slider reaches 1 pixel representing the neutral gray point. Then I click on this pixel using the Levels eye dropper for the grey point setting.

You will see three eyedroppers in Levels. Use the one in the middle. If you hold the cursor over the eyedropper for a moment or two, a balloon will appear identifying the eyedropper.

Finally, note that hunting for that 1 pixel may involve zooming in and scanning the image while in Threshold mode. If you cannot find 1 pixel, then try finding a pixel with the Threshold set to 2 pixels. You can go up to 3 pixels and still achieve a close neutral gray point.

Occasionally you will come upon an image that has no neutral gray point even at the Threshold setting of 3 pixels. When this result happens, I adjust the image as best I may using my eye while making sure I have a good black point and white point set in the image.

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Nov 12, 2013 14:27:49   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Hankwt wrote:
In my ongoing quest to become a better photographer while takling flash Ive come up with a few questions .

1. How does one properly address White Balance settings with flash ? Do uou base it on the ambient light like flouresent/ tungsten etc ?

2 If using something like an Expo disc or a similar type WB aid how is it done ? Do you take the pic in the preset mode with the flash on ?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

PS. Im using Nikon flashes but that shouldnt make a difference - I think !!
In my ongoing quest to become a better photographe... (show quote)


Setup the shot. Have your model/subject hold a grey card. Snap a shot of the grey card making sure you fill most of the frame with the card. Then you can create a custom w/b in the camera if the lighting remain the same or keep your camera on auto w/b and then use the image of the card in post processing to set up a preset w/b and apply it to all the images taken in that session.

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Nov 12, 2013 17:18:46   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
Bobbee wrote:
I was looking p 'full CTS ge;' and my search only came up with CTO and I found this article. Interesting read along the same lne.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101-using-gels-to-correct.html


I shoot Canon which to me has a red bias so I gel my flashes for ambient incandescent with Rosco Cinegel #3441 Filter - Full Straw CTS (instead of Rosco Cinegel #3407 Filter - RoscoSun CTO):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/44225-REG/Rosco_RS344111_3441_Filter_Full.html

The CTS has less red than the CTO.

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Nov 12, 2013 18:57:49   #
Bobbee
 
robert-photos wrote:
I shoot Canon which to me has a red bias so I gel my flashes for ambient incandescent with Rosco Cinegel #3441 Filter - Full Straw CTS (instead of Rosco Cinegel #3407 Filter - RoscoSun CTO):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/44225-REG/Rosco_RS344111_3441_Filter_Full.html

The CTS has less red than the CTO.


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Nov 12, 2013 19:22:25   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/White-Balancing-Accessories/ci/12260/N/4077634549

check out the Photovision and WhiBal
I use both and my colors come out great.

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Nov 12, 2013 19:47:43   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
With your high usage, you can justify going with better, more costly gear.

BTW: There are other radio triggers of better quality than the Cowboy Studio ones. Your workload may require those.
Bobbee wrote:
Thanks, I was looking at the Cowboy triggers and then went with Pocket's. Go figure. I have an SB900 and when I am taking alot of flashes it seizes up on me because of thermal overload. A known issue. I like the flash but not what it does in these situations. I have another thread going and I am looking at the Quantum Trio for my Nikon. these have the radio build in and can fire thousands of flashes in a row without overheating. And seem to be, from the write up, much more powerful. But are expensive, but I do believe in that saying 'you get what you pay for', or the Russian saying 'by cheap 10 times, buy good once'. So I am probably going down that route. This weekend I was doing a shoot and the SB900 locked up on me 3 times. Very frustrating. Had to switch to my 600's. So I will keep the SB's for other tings and backups.
Thanks, I was looking at the Cowboy triggers and t... (show quote)

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Nov 12, 2013 19:57:29   #
Bobbee
 
anotherview wrote:
With your high usage, you can justify going with better, more costly gear.

BTW: There are other radio triggers of better quality than the Cowboy Studio ones. Your workload may require those.


I have the pocket wizard Minni and Flex. Do you recommend something better than this. When I brought them I was reading the reviews and they seemed Ok. It may be the way I set them up. I was moving tooo quick on Saturday to give the issue a proper debugging approach. I had 87 actors lined up for portrait shots. This happened after about 25. I was thinking one of the contact that is on the bottom of the Transceiver came in contact the the mounting bracket which was metal. That may have caused the issue. Maybe I will tape a thin piece of rubber there so it could not possibly happen. Or switch to plastic. Thanks!!!!

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Nov 12, 2013 20:07:50   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I use pocket wizard plus II. the only time they don't work right is when the battery needs replaced/recharged.

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Nov 12, 2013 20:12:50   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Your situation as a working professional with a high workload would justify your having a backup system for triggering your flash units.

Your existing gear may've gone haywire for a short or some other connection problem. You may wish to have this gear checked by a qualified technician.

Let me please suggest you check with other pros in your line of work for how they prepare for a backup system.
Bobbee wrote:
I have the pocket wizard Minni and Flex. Do you recommend something better than this. When I brought them I was reading the reviews and they seemed Ok. It may be the way I set them up. I was moving tooo quick on Saturday to give the issue a proper debugging approach. I had 87 actors lined up for portrait shots. This happened after about 25. I was thinking one of the contact that is on the bottom of the Transceiver came in contact the the mounting bracket which was metal. That may have caused the issue. Maybe I will tape a thin piece of rubber there so it could not possibly happen. Or switch to plastic. Thanks!!!!
I have the pocket wizard Minni and Flex. Do you re... (show quote)

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Nov 12, 2013 21:00:33   #
Bobbee
 
anotherview wrote:
Your situation as a working professional with a high workload would justify your having a backup system for triggering your flash units.

Your existing gear may've gone haywire for a short or some other connection problem. You may wish to have this gear checked by a qualified technician.

Let me please suggest you check with other pros in your line of work for how they prepare for a backup system.


Thanks, I have two other backups. I like the Mini and TTL for features. Again thanks.

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