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Nov 8, 2013 21:32:03   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
The second picture is cropped much heavier than I normally will. Same photo but does this really make the photo better?





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Nov 8, 2013 21:46:51   #
CajonPhotog Loc: Shreveport, LA
 
My thinking on this photo is that the bird is looking down into the water which is still in the picture. Had the bird been looking out farther ahead,somewhere outside of the frame, then I would say, yes, it is cropped to much. Each photo tells a story, but if you crop too much part of the story goes away, which leaves the viewer wondering what is out there. I have actually seen people look at a photo of someone looking far away and they put their face up close to the photo, turn their head , and try to see what the subject was looking at. OH, nice reflection, and you can tell that he is after a fine morsel for dinner.

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Nov 8, 2013 23:39:10   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I think filling the frame in that second photo works well with this image. 8-)

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Nov 9, 2013 01:09:25   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
I prefer the cropped version. It helps emphasize the bird, and more importantly the reflection. What has been cropped out wasn't adding much, so eliminating it was good. If I can offer one suggestion, the bright leaf in the upper left keeps drawing my eye away from the main subject (which a bright spot is tend to do). Consider toning it way down to lessen its attention getting effect. Nice nature shot.

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Nov 9, 2013 08:29:43   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
I prefer the uncropped (or first crop). I think it has the slight compositional edge. I love that I can get in close and see the eye is rotated forward, staring intently at the unseen target in the water. I can imagine that a fraction of a second after you made the exposure the bird exploded into action and thrashed up the water, destroying the reflection but nailing a meal. :thumbup:

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Nov 9, 2013 09:37:16   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I also like #1 as you have such lovely color tones around the bird.

But sometimes I think our preferences for close crops on birds also has to do with how familiar we are with that bird. I have seen and photo'd dozens and dozens of GBH's so I know what they look like quite well :) So that makes it a different experience for me than the species posted from UK, India and Australia.

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Nov 9, 2013 13:10:43   #
CajonPhotog Loc: Shreveport, LA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I also like #1 as you have such lovely color tones around the bird.

But sometimes I think our preferences for close crops on birds also has to do with how familiar we are with that bird. I have seen and photo'd dozens and dozens of GBH's so I know what they look like quite well :) So that makes it a different experience for me than the species posted from UK, India and Australia.


Good point, familiarity with the subject will change our perception of how we frame a subject, the lighting, etc.

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Nov 9, 2013 17:04:34   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
larrywilk wrote:
The second picture is cropped much heavier than I normally will. Same photo but does this really make the photo better?


You might try between the two with a 4x6 format.

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Nov 9, 2013 21:09:29   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
CajonPhotog wrote:
My thinking on this photo is that the bird is looking down into the water which is still in the picture. Had the bird been looking out farther ahead,somewhere outside of the frame, then I would say, yes, it is cropped to much. Each photo tells a story, but if you crop too much part of the story goes away, which leaves the viewer wondering what is out there. I have actually seen people look at a photo of someone looking far away and they put their face up close to the photo, turn their head , and try to see what the subject was looking at. OH, nice reflection, and you can tell that he is after a fine morsel for dinner.
My thinking on this photo is that the bird is look... (show quote)


Thank you

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Nov 9, 2013 21:10:57   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Bmac wrote:
I think filling the frame in that second photo works well with this image. 8-)


It does isolate the subject more. Thanks for your comment

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Nov 9, 2013 21:12:30   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
I prefer the cropped version. It helps emphasize the bird, and more importantly the reflection. What has been cropped out wasn't adding much, so eliminating it was good. If I can offer one suggestion, the bright leaf in the upper left keeps drawing my eye away from the main subject (which a bright spot is tend to do). Consider toning it way down to lessen its attention getting effect. Nice nature shot.


Hadn't noticed it but you are right. I'll try that. Thanks

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Nov 9, 2013 21:15:30   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
I prefer the uncropped (or first crop). I think it has the slight compositional edge. I love that I can get in close and see the eye is rotated forward, staring intently at the unseen target in the water. I can imagine that a fraction of a second after you made the exposure the bird exploded into action and thrashed up the water, destroying the reflection but nailing a meal. :thumbup:


Wow! were you there too? Seriously, thank you. If all our images could evoke stories like that...

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Nov 9, 2013 21:21:42   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I also like #1 as you have such lovely color tones around the bird.

But sometimes I think our preferences for close crops on birds also has to do with how familiar we are with that bird. I have seen and photo'd dozens and dozens of GBH's so I know what they look like quite well :) So that makes it a different experience for me than the species posted from UK, India and Australia.


I can certainly relate to that. I rarely take photos of squirrels because they are so plentiful. The GBH is so noble and regal that I automatically try to capture this in my image. Even the Blue Heron has the iridescent sheen that I try to capture.

Thanks, Limda, for looking and commenting

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Nov 9, 2013 21:22:11   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I also like #1 as you have such lovely color tones around the bird.

But sometimes I think our preferences for close crops on birds also has to do with how familiar we are with that bird. I have seen and photo'd dozens and dozens of GBH's so I know what they look like quite well :) So that makes it a different experience for me than the species posted from UK, India and Australia.


I can certainly relate to that. I rarely take photos of squirrels because they are so plentiful. The GBH is so noble and regal that I automatically try to capture this in my image. Even the Blue Heron has the iridescent sheen that I try to capture.

Thanks, Linda, for looking and commenting

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Nov 9, 2013 21:25:07   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
CajonPhotog wrote:
Good point, familiarity with the subject will change our perception of how we frame a subject, the lighting, etc.


True! But it also provides the opportunity to experiment. Thanks

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