While I don't find the quality of this shot the best, I did find the reflection interesting and wanted to share .
Bmac
Loc: Long Island, NY
dooragdragon wrote:
While I don't find the quality of this shot the best, I did find the reflection interesting and wanted to share .
You may wish to share this photograph in the General Gallery rather than the Photo Critique & Analysis Forum. :-)
This was my opinion of the photo and I thought possible someone had some suggestions on how to have gotten a better shot.
jonsommer
Loc: Usually, somewhere on the U.S. west coast.
You told us in your 'George' post that you don't do any PP on your shots, and you don't do any cropping, so any suggestions that would include those suggestions would be discarded and discounted. So, then what do you mean by improving the shot, do you mean imprinting this shot, (which would include PP, most likely) or are you asking that if you had another chance to shoot a similar photo, what could you do differently to have a better outcome? So, to me at least, your question is unclear.
Bmac wrote:
You may wish to share this photograph in the General Gallery rather than the Photo Critique & Analysis Forum. :-)
No, this picture is directly related to another by dooragdragon, at
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-161539-1.html . The first one is wire sharp, the bird's in profile, the color's wonderful, BUT the bird is cropped at the knees and you can't see his reflection (drat!). This one unfortunately has the reflection but lacks the other elements that made the first picture
almost great. (By the way, dooragdragon, you could and probably should have put up this picture in the original thread. So far as I know that is allowed once the discussion starts, and keeps it all in one place).
So here we have a terrific (!) reflection, but as you already know it isn't as sharp, and George (the bird for the uninitiated) might be better if his head were turned more one way or the other, to accentuate the sinuous neck and let us see an eye and beak. Were you (or he) there long enough to keep banging away? I haven't shot (figure of speech) a lot of birds, but since they don't hold still much I'd be inclined to, frankly, do at least a little "spray and pray." :-)
I don't know why anyone would want to change this. It's a very enjoyable image.
Pierre
Bmac
Loc: Long Island, NY
dooragdragon wrote:
This was my opinion of the photo and I thought possible someone had some suggestions on how to have gotten a better shot.
Okay then. Your selection of the scene of the bird and reflection is a good one to photograph. It is crucial, in most circumstances, to get the subject sharply in focus, which it is not. Perhaps you could share your settings?
The subject is lost in the center of the image, which could be overcome by zooming in closer, or (had the subject been sharp) cropping. Try composing next time by learning about the so called "rule of thirds" and by eliminating distractions at the edge of photographs such as the large dark area in the lower left. You may wish to consider a portrait (vertical orientation) for a picture such as this.
Your eye is good in finding this scene, you must practice on technique and presentation. Hope this helps. :)
Why is it that everyone is so gung ho to post process everything they shoot?
A simple use a different f/stop, try a higher iso, a faster shutter speed , use a filter is the sort of feedback not oh go to xyz photoshop and correct it is not the answer i seek.
Bmac
Loc: Long Island, NY
dooragdragon wrote:
Why is it that everyone is so gung ho to post process everything they shoot?
A simple use a different f/stop, try a higher iso, a faster shutter speed , use a filter is the sort of feedback not oh go to xyz photoshop and correct it is not the answer i seek.
Except for the one mention of cropping, I do not believe my answer related to post processing but to sharpness and composition. Posting in this section is designed to open up your post to all sorts of interesting views of how to improve a photo, including post processing. If you do not wish any opinion of PP, you might mention that in your opening post, than hopefully no one will advise on it. 8-)
Thank you for your input Bmac .
Chuck_893 wrote:
No, this picture is directly related to another by dooragdragon, at
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-161539-1.html . The first one is wire sharp, the bird's in profile, the color's wonderful, BUT the bird is cropped at the knees and you can't see his reflection (drat!). This one unfortunately has the reflection but lacks the other elements that made the first picture
almost great. (By the way, dooragdragon, you could and probably should have put up this picture in the original thread. So far as I know that is allowed once the discussion starts, and keeps it all in one place).
So here we have a terrific (!) reflection, but as you already know it isn't as sharp, and George (the bird for the uninitiated) might be better if his head were turned more one way or the other, to accentuate the sinuous neck and let us see an eye and beak. Were you (or he) there long enough to keep banging away? I haven't shot (figure of speech) a lot of birds, but since they don't hold still much I'd be inclined to, frankly, do at least a little "spray and pray." :-)
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Thank you Chuck, George will stand in 1 positon for long periods of time patiently waiting for his next meal to pass by ( he has more patience then I do )
The pond has quite a few large trees on 1 end and side that cast shadows and reflections and some of the best shots would be in the shadows or reflections.
Shots are mostly hand held as I am in the narrow 1 lane gravel driveway, as he tends to spook if I try to get closer from a different angle and I end up attempting a BIF shot instead.
He is a daily visitor usually at least twice a day.
I agree with Bmac. You can show your photos (that's what 'sharing' means) in Gallery or Analysis where you can still get and respond to comments. If you want to. Otherwise this section gets overloaded with gallery shots.
Mike.
MIKE GALLAGHER wrote:
I agree with Bmac. You can show your photos (that's what 'sharing' means) in Gallery or Analysis where you can still get and respond to comments. If you want to. Otherwise this section gets overloaded with gallery shots.
Mike.
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