Parasitic dominance: We have all heard the terms "socialism" and "subsidies" but we have seen very little addressed as being "parasitic". Definition of Parasite: 1. A plant or animal...

dville Loc: Mountain states

We have all heard the terms "socialism" and "subsidies" but we have seen very little addressed as being "parasitic".

Definition of Parasite: 1. A plant or animal living in, on, with another organism usually to its' harm. 2. One depending on another and not making adequate return.

With that said is it not representative of the uber rich and corporations activities against the poor, the working class, the sick with the Republican and conservative backing?

sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL

I don't feel like a parasite at all. I've worked over 60 years for sometimes idiotic pay (military in a combat zone) or pay less than the norm because I've never wanted to be a burden on the state.

My military pay in 1960 was approximately $68.00 a month after taxes and social security which i paid for 40+ years of my life.

I'm not a parasite since I have no mortage, no credit cards with balances, no loans on a car or truck and have 2 vehicles to use.

I pay cash for purchases I need and sometimes 'stuff' I don't really need.

But I am a person who does not want what I worked for to be a basis for someone else to cry and moan as they avoid work and want some of 'my stuff.'

Sarge69

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

sarge69 wrote:

I don't feel like a parasite at all. I've worked o... (show quote)

Yet you advocate policies that make the poor poorer and the super rich richer. Why? Why is it so important to you that the billionaires accumulate even more money and at a faster rate? The more wealth accumulating among the rich, the more wealth gets sucked out from the lower and middle class. Especially the middle class, because they have more wealth to surrender to the ultra rich.

dville Loc: Mountain states

sarge69 wrote:

I don't feel like a parasite at all. I've worked o... (show quote)

Sarge in what you say you are not the person that I am addressing in this thread.

The fact that you have no mortgage or CC's and own your vehicles has nothing to do with what I am saying.

And to say they cry and moan and avoid work....where is the work? At Wendy's, at Walmart? More people are working at part time , low wage jobs only to move on to abolish minimum wage, abolish unemployment, etc.

I dare say that you wouldn't have been able to buy what ever you have without either job security or to pay cash.
I doubt that there are very many people in your position.
Families have to take what work is out there to survive this is not sustainable for a democratic way of life.

The present movement and strategy is to get rid of the working middle class and without them so goes our Democracy and then live under corporate rule...

You know... Pres. Reagan's "trickle down" economy.... In the words of Sarah Palin..."How did that work out for you?"

There are those that mooch granted, however, they are not only Dems.

sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL

Who determines what a basic pay scale is? The business owner....WHy ? If he pays more than basic wage, his profit is gone. For what ? Being a nice guy ?

The worker wants more money? Why? They can't make change, especially if you wait 5 seconds and then say, "Oh, I have the 17 cents of that 4.17 bill." You just threw them off because the machine is already telling them what change to give you.

That worker is getting minimum wage yet they have thousands of dollars worth of tattoos from head to toe and piercings outwardly visible and more not visible.

Some folks aren't blind ya know. Let's be honest instead of looking at everyone blind to the obvious. There are lazy folks out there and they are growing and voting.

Sarge69

dville Loc: Mountain states

rook2c4 wrote:

Yet you advocate policies that make the poor poorer and the super rich richer. Why? Why is it so important to you that the billionaires accumulate even more money and at a faster rate? The more wealth accumulating among the rich, the more wealth gets sucked out from the lower and middle class. Especially the middle class, because they have more wealth to surrender to the ultra rich.

I would ask you to explain the policies by this administration that favor the rich.

This administration from the beginning has tried to go back to prior to Pres. Reagan's tax cuts for the rich, have tried over and over to cut out Pres. Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

I would say that you are confused to believe that this administration is working against the lower or middle class... How many times has been asked by the congress to provide bills for jobs and they won't do it.

This administration has tried to get the big money to pay its' fair share in taxes to no avail...that is why they are getting richer and the middle is paying for it.

Are you of the belief that the Dems. favor the rich and the Reps. favor the middle class? That is quite foolhardy.

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

dville wrote:

I would say that you are confused to believe that this administration is working against the lower or middle class... How many times has been asked by the congress to provide bills for jobs and they won't do it.

No, I don't believe that this administration is specifically working against the lower and middle class. Although I also don't think it's doing nearly as much as it could and should be doing to help. Bring back manufacturing by reintroducing import tariffs would be a start. A strong manufacturing base means a better domestic economy, a stronger middle class and better upward mobility for the poor.
I suppose things could be worse - we could have had Romney in charge. By now, he certainly would have sold the last piece of federal government to the highest bidder, leaving unaccountable, profit-driven corporations in charge of everything.

BillHill Loc: Saint Augustine, Fl

The rich keep getting richer because they continue to do the things that made them rich while the poor keep doing the things that made them poor.

rook2c4 wrote:

Yet you advocate policies that make the poor poorer and the super rich richer. Why? Why is it so important to you that the billionaires accumulate even more money and at a faster rate? The more wealth accumulating among the rich, the more wealth gets sucked out from the lower and middle class. Especially the middle class, because they have more wealth to surrender to the ultra rich.

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

BillHill wrote:

The rich keep getting richer because they continue to do the things that made them rich while the poor keep doing the things that made them poor.

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dville Loc: Mountain states

BillHill wrote:

The rich keep getting richer because they continue to do the things that made them rich while the poor keep doing the things that made them poor.

Don't you think the poor would like to have a better opportunity and a better way of life? Don't you think people want to work?

There are numerous people having had their jobs taken away that find new opportunities, but not everybody is able to do that.

The rich are getting richer because they have the lowest tax rate in history and park their taxable gains off shore.

All good manufacturing jobs have left our shores because of a disastrous trade policy. The people that have the ability to change our trade policy are in cahoots with the people that benefits the most....the rich.

BillHill Loc: Saint Augustine, Fl

It is too easy to give up and not try to improve themselves. There are many excuses such there are no jobs that pay me what I think I'm worth.A family friend owned the largest electrical contracting business in my home town.So what- he was illiterate and could not write. Give him a blueprint and he could give a competitive quote and finish the job on time. Can you think of a more restrictive handicap to have? He did not let get in his way.

dville wrote:

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rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

BillHill wrote:

The rich keep getting richer because they continue to do the things that made them rich while the poor keep doing the things that made them poor.

The first assessment is correct: the rich get richer because they continue to buy politicians and pay as little as possible to employees in wages and benefits as they can get away with and still continue their business operations. The rich get richer because they continue to manipulate the system to increase their gain at the expense of others.

Your second assessment is faulty. Low paying jobs simply would not go away if only everyone tried harder. Unemployment would not diminish if only people put more effort into looking for work.

BillHill Loc: Saint Augustine, Fl

This is the philosophy of a loser. Blame the successful but not taking responsibility for your failure.

rook2c4 wrote:

The first assessment is correct: the rich get rich... (show quote)

Zophman Loc: Northwest

I need some clarification for the argument. Please inform me of the definition of "rich" and "poor" as it pertains to this argument. Thanks

BillHill Loc: Saint Augustine, Fl

In common usage, rich = having much more than me, poor = having much less than me.

Zophman wrote:

I need some clarification for the argument. Please inform me of the definition of "rich" and "poor" as it pertains to this argument. Thanks