When critique is genuinely helpful :)
Nov 2, 2013 11:15:33 #
Hadn't seen an announcement so didn't know the new forum was up and running. See:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-117-1.html
Check out the transformation in Old Salt's image of Nubble Lighthouse - just from cropping! Found that thread hugely interesting.
And a very helpful statement on my popcorn clouds in so few words: "Sunrises and sunsets are pretty but not interesting." We need to remember that just because we saw something pretty, even if we have it on our wall (like I do!), that part of why we like it may be wrapped up in the experience of being out there, living the moment, seeing the beauty.
If we're interested in elevating the image to a higher level of art, we need to take another step or two: bring a different viewpoint, creativity, that will make the shot stand out among others of the same subject.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-117-1.html
Check out the transformation in Old Salt's image of Nubble Lighthouse - just from cropping! Found that thread hugely interesting.
And a very helpful statement on my popcorn clouds in so few words: "Sunrises and sunsets are pretty but not interesting." We need to remember that just because we saw something pretty, even if we have it on our wall (like I do!), that part of why we like it may be wrapped up in the experience of being out there, living the moment, seeing the beauty.
If we're interested in elevating the image to a higher level of art, we need to take another step or two: bring a different viewpoint, creativity, that will make the shot stand out among others of the same subject.
Nov 2, 2013 11:38:47 #
If we want real critique we should post there. Sometimes we are not aware how boring some photos are. In my peeve list: flowers, trains. But I do take photos of flowers but never post. I know they are boring. What makes something "interesting" for us is not for most people. I love taking photos of clouds and birds (sometimes boring and repetitive) when I don't have anything else to photograph... which is often. I know they are boring. Why do I take cloud photos ? To find interesting things on them that I cannot see with my eyes. It is one of my hobbies within photography. And that is personal and I don't post - normally- unless i heavily PP.
So... That is why this forum is great because you can post whatever interests you and it doesn't have to agree with other people's likings. Until a troll steps in.
So... That is why this forum is great because you can post whatever interests you and it doesn't have to agree with other people's likings. Until a troll steps in.
Artifact on a photo: CROP of following photo.
Original photo: I sometimes find very interesting (to me) things.
These is the photo seconds apart on same general area of the sky, showing vultures I was not able to see with my bare eyes. Both photos with 70-200 + 1.4X
Nov 2, 2013 11:47:04 #
is That A UFO? See Now It's Becomes Interesting,Just By Making A Startling Statement.
Nov 2, 2013 11:53:17 #
We must always take into account the photographer's original intent.
I received an interesting email from a friend of mine who asked me to pp a photo he had taken. It said, "When I first looked at your image, there was something about it that bothered me, but I couldn't put my finger on it. You obviously did an great job on the image. I particularly like the way you pulled out additional details in a usable fashion without making the image look over-processed or flat. What I didn't expect was the amount of philosophic pondering that your image caused me. I showed both images to a fellow photography buff and he didn't find any problems with what you had done. And then it hit me. Neither you or my friend had seen the *original* scene! Your image is gorgeous and shows everything in the best light, while mine with its contrasty details and sharp shadows, is more what the house looked like last night. Before this exercise, I thought it would be easy to pick out the best picture of my house. Now, I'm not so sure."
I received an interesting email from a friend of mine who asked me to pp a photo he had taken. It said, "When I first looked at your image, there was something about it that bothered me, but I couldn't put my finger on it. You obviously did an great job on the image. I particularly like the way you pulled out additional details in a usable fashion without making the image look over-processed or flat. What I didn't expect was the amount of philosophic pondering that your image caused me. I showed both images to a fellow photography buff and he didn't find any problems with what you had done. And then it hit me. Neither you or my friend had seen the *original* scene! Your image is gorgeous and shows everything in the best light, while mine with its contrasty details and sharp shadows, is more what the house looked like last night. Before this exercise, I thought it would be easy to pick out the best picture of my house. Now, I'm not so sure."
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Nov 2, 2013 12:05:12 #
Bob Yankle wrote:
We must always take into account the photographer'... (show quote)
Super-interesting point, Bob, and your examples provide great illustration. Thanks!
Nov 2, 2013 12:07:10 #
Bubu wrote:
If we want real critique we should post there. Som... (show quote)
You made a great point we should all remember, Bubu: above all, amateur photography should be fun! And to find a hobby within a hobby is that icing on the cake.
And like you, I also appreciate the fact that UHH is large enough to accommodate many interests :)
Nov 2, 2013 12:07:27 #
Jim Peters wrote:
is That A UFO? See Now It's Becomes Interesting,Just By Making A Startling Statement.
Thank you for the comment. It seems to me it is not a bird (see vultures) and not an airplane). I would say, by definition, it is a UFO if it is not a burnt pixel. But I don't see it on the second photo. To me, that's interesting.
Nov 2, 2013 12:11:06 #
Nov 2, 2013 12:12:03 #
The photo of the house is well enhanced since it brings up details you could not see on the harsh contrast it had on the original. Love the enhanced photo! It would have taken several lights positioned in several places (like in front porch, bushes, top of house) to get the same affect that was created with PP.
Nov 2, 2013 13:59:58 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
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If we're interested in elevating the image to a higher level of art, we need to take another step or two: bring a different viewpoint, creativity, that will make the shot stand out among others of the same subject.
If we're interested in elevating the image to a higher level of art, we need to take another step or two: bring a different viewpoint, creativity, that will make the shot stand out among others of the same subject.
Well said!
Nov 2, 2013 14:01:17 #
Bubu wrote:
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Until a troll steps in.
Until a troll steps in.
Oops. Your first photo is of me. I was flying I tell ya!
Nov 2, 2013 14:04:28 #
Bob Yankle wrote:
We must always take into account the photographer'... (show quote)
It has always amazed me that two people can see the same scene and describe it differently, but then again that is what I love about art especially when it comes to hearing other peoples points of view. Yours is a great example. Thank you!
Nov 2, 2013 14:43:49 #
Bob, I agree what you have said about the photographer having been there and carrying a vision of the image he is about to take in his mind and the the viewer of the image having no connection with the original scene only judging by what he sees before him. The viewers idea of how he thinks the image should appear is often completely different from the vision of the photographer. Impasse?
Not an hour ago I posted the same thoughts on another section of UHh.
Graham
Not an hour ago I posted the same thoughts on another section of UHh.
Graham
Nov 2, 2013 14:54:55 #
Graham Smith wrote:
Bob, I agree what you have said about the photographer having been there and carrying a vision of the image he is about to take in his mind and the the viewer of the image having no connection with the original scene only judging by what he sees before him. The viewers idea of how he thinks the image should appear is often completely different from the vision of the photographer. Impasse?
Not an hour ago I posted the same thoughts on another section of UHh.
Graham
Not an hour ago I posted the same thoughts on another section of UHh.
Graham
Graham and Bob = great minds thinking alike :)
Nov 2, 2013 15:15:58 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Hadn't seen an announcement so didn't know the new forum was up and running. See:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-117-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-117-1.html
What is the difference between this forum and the Photo Analysis forum that already exists?
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