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Oct 16, 2013 13:49:03   #
buglinbilly Loc: Murray, Utah
 
The first one:

I am pretty sure I know what this one is, but have had several outdoorsman question me. I know there are a lot of people on UHH that know their birds, and some that really know their birds of prey. So please help if you can.

This second one I really wonder about. Is it a young of one species or is it an adult of another. So please help if you can.

And thanks in advance for your expertise and help!

BB

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Oct 16, 2013 14:11:24   #
Jimande Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
Excellent shots! The second one looks like a kestrel; I have attached a picture of one my son made.



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Oct 16, 2013 14:18:49   #
lovemypups Loc: Kentucky
 
I can't help you with identification, but the photos are wonderful!!! Very, very nice :thumbup:
Debbie

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Oct 16, 2013 14:32:00   #
A. J. Loc: PA. USA
 
lovemypups wrote:
I can't help you with identification, but the photos are wonderful!!! Very, very nice :thumbup:
Debbie



Hi Buglinbilly.............Great pics., Just a guess but the second one looks like it might be a Red-shouldered Hawk judging by the wide tail bands. The first one, I don't know.

The pic. sent in by Jimande looks like a Red-tailed Hawk judging by the belly band.

Let's see what others have to say. ;) ;-)

Will check my Eastern Field Guide to see if I can get a match for the first hawk.

After looking at the field guide, I'm inclined to say the first hawk might be a Ferruginous Hawk, I've never seen a live western hawk as I live in the East.

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Oct 16, 2013 14:41:27   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Beautiful images! Not sure what they are, except that first looks like redtail hawk - or possibly rough-legged hawk, but I do know what they aren't :)

Jimande, there is no American Kestrel here, including the one you posted.

Kestrels are much smaller, more colorful, and have a distinctive vertical striping on the sides of their faces: two black with white in middle.

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Oct 16, 2013 14:49:02   #
GWR100 Loc: England
 
I haven't got a clue BB, but it is a fabulious set great stuff

Geoff

buglinbilly wrote:
The first one:

I am pretty sure I know what this one is, but have had several outdoorsman question me. I know there are a lot of people on UHH that know their birds, and some that really know their birds of prey. So please help if you can.

This second one I really wonder about. Is it a young of one species or is it an adult of another. So please help if you can.

And thanks in advance for your expertise and help!

BB

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Oct 16, 2013 15:36:29   #
Macromad Loc: New Zealand
 
Redtail for no.2. no1 don't know but man you got some good shots.

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Oct 16, 2013 15:37:45   #
buglinbilly Loc: Murray, Utah
 
Well thanks for everyones help. Although the first one does look like a rough-legged-hawk, its not that. I think it is a Northern Harrier or also known as a Marsh Hawk. The second one I am really confused about.

So lets keep going and hopefully some one can positively ID both of them.

And just for information, here's a photo of a Kestrel. They are about 1/4 the size of the second hawk I want to know about.

Again, thanks to everyone. BB





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Oct 16, 2013 15:51:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Your kestrel looks cold and unhappy :)

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Oct 16, 2013 16:23:04   #
buglinbilly Loc: Murray, Utah
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Your kestrel looks cold and unhappy :)


Well if you look closely at the first photo of the Kestrel, you will notice a small amount of blood on his breast. He was just finishing eating a mouse when I took that photo, so it might have been indigestion. Ha Ha

They were taken last winter on very cold days, that's for sure! BB



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Oct 16, 2013 17:14:14   #
A. J. Loc: PA. USA
 
buglinbilly wrote:
Well thanks for everyones help. Although the first one does look like a rough-legged-hawk, its not that. I think it is a Northern Harrier or also known as a Marsh Hawk. The second one I am really confused about.

So lets keep going and hopefully some one can positively ID both of them.

And just for information, here's a photo of a Kestrel. They are about 1/4 the size of the second hawk I want to know about.

Again, thanks to everyone. BB




Just a bit of trivia, the American Kestral used to be called the Sparrow Hawk because of it's small size. ;)

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Oct 16, 2013 17:16:57   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
Beautiful birds posted here,love your close-ups in particular.

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Oct 16, 2013 19:08:09   #
Macromad Loc: New Zealand
 
Good shots of the kestrel. well done

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Oct 17, 2013 08:00:28   #
davids999 Loc: Edinburgh, UK
 
Likewise, can't assist with ID but those are fabulous photographs.

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Oct 17, 2013 10:22:23   #
Yooper 2 Loc: Ironwood, MI
 
The second one is a Marsh Hawk. The owl-like face feathers and yellow on the upper beak and the broad tail bands are identifying features.
It would be very helpful to see the tail on the first one. It is an adult by the banding on the chest. My guess is it's a red tailed hawk because of the banding. Only a few hawks have banding. Most have vertical markings on the chest.

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