pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Make sure you read to the bottom...

Quite an eye opener...

These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2012, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000,which averages out to $137.13 a day. To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $20.00 an hour.

Furthermore:
There are actually two messages here. The first is very
interesting, but the second is absolutely astounding - and explains a lot.

A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very
interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years
after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received
treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it
within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within
one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million
people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are
in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

And now for the last statistic:

National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES

Check this last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked
in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is; a real-life business, not a government job.

Here are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt.................... 38%
Taft................................ 40%
Wilson ........................... 52%
Harding........................... 49%
Coolidge......................... 48%
Hoover............................ 42%
F. Roosevelt..................... 50%
Truman........................... 50%
Eisenhower................ .... 57%
Kennedy......................... 30%
Johnson.......................... 47%
Nixon.............................. 53%
Ford................................ 42%
Carter............................. 32%
Reagan............................ 56%
GH Bush.......................... 51%
Clinton .......................... 39%
GW Bush........................ 55%
Obama............................. 8%

This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration:
only 8% of them have ever worked in private business! That's right! Only eight percent---the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business?

How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers." They should have been in an employment line.

Pass this on because we'll NEVER see these facts in the main stream media.

cudakite Loc: San Antonio

The response from the left is overwhelming and revelatory in the extreme. Thanks for the info. Isn't multiculturalism a boon?

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Q: Do 11 states now have more people on welfare than they have employed?
A: A viral email making this claim is off base. It distorts a Forbes article that compares private-sector workers with those “dependent on the government,” including government workers and pensioners, and Medicaid recipients — not just “people on welfare.

Of course! More lies from the people who brought you the government shutdown. Really guys, You republicans are a joke.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

The joke is on you and the rest of the country. You're just slow to realize it. :thumbup:

GC-FineArt Loc: WDC

(LOL. You are an incurable troll http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-129962-1.html :))

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Please tell us about the Senate Report, I want to see it.

I will not accept that people make $61,000/per annum from the government without seeing documentation.

"How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers." They should have been in an employment line."

This is a silly line of reasoning. Barack Obama was a community organizer, and the reason he won both elections--especially the second--was that his community was better organized! Even Romney recognized that.

I'd think you wouldn't want to bring that up.

Did mopping the floor in his father's bar make Boehner a master politician, a political philosopher, a competent speaker?

I realize you wouldn't recognize FDR or John F. Kennedy as successful politicians.

I'd have to look up Wilson, Eisenhower, LBJ, Ford and Clinton for their work histories. There are probably other exceptions.

Waiting for the documentation you quote...

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

"Waiting for the documentation you quote..."

Twardlow

First of all it's not MY quote. I just pasted it from something emailed to me. Secondly I would like to know if you consider anything Obummer has done a "real job." He wouldn't last a week without his puppet masters and teleprompters.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Really,
Does success come from just raising your debt ceiling and printing a few billion more dollars? Did the Govt shutdown also halt foreign aid to all those deserving countries?

KW Conch Loc: USA

Raising the debt limit is simply to pay the bills already accrued.
It has nothing to do with future spending. That's why it is such a crucial issue. You don't stiff your creditors.

KW Conch Loc: USA

I have yet to see a chain email that was truthful.

Birdog9999 Loc: New Jersey

Money spent on welfare recipients exceeds average U.S. income

December 8, 2012 by Michael Dorstewitz


There’s an old saying: If you’re not going to get out of the car to help push, at least take your damn foot off the brake.

In this upside-down economy, the American taxpayer is pushing a car with its brakes fully engaged by welfare recipients.

The 2011 median household income was $50,054, or $137.13 per each day of the year. Assuming the breadwinner of this average household is an hourly employee working 40 hours a week and 50 weeks a year, that would put his pay scale at a shade over $25 an hour. Subtract withholding taxes and that wage-earner takes home about $22 for each hour worked.

As taxpayers, these are the ones pushing the car. Now, what about the riders?

According to a recently released Senate Budget Committee report, the total in benefits received — money, food stamps, housing, child care and the administrative costs to implement these programs — comes to a whopping $168 per day. If they were earning this sum, just like our average household breadwinner above — 40 hours a week for 50 weeks a year — their hourly wage would amount to almost $31 per hour.

Part of the problem is program redundancy.

Katie Pavlich, writing for Townhall, reported that the Congressional Research Service “identified roughly 80 overlapping federal means-tested welfare programs that together represented the single largest budget item in 2011 — more than the nation spends on Social Security, Medicare, or national defense. The total amount spent on these federal programs, when taken together with approximately $280 billion in state contributions, amounted to roughly $1 trillion.”

Not only can we expect things to get worse, the president is providing for it.

“Under the President’s FY13 budget proposal, means-tested spending would increase an additional 30 percent over the next four years,” Pavlich wrote.

In a recent article, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof made the following concession: “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

Again, I don’t mind pushing. I just want people to take their damn foot off the brake.
Read more at Townhall.

Welfare vs. working

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

In other words, just something from the internet--and we know how accurate those things are.

"You can make $61,000 a year, just by having kids!"

I think it's just more tea party bullroar.

(BTW, when you publish it under your name, you own it.)

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

AND...who authorizes this debt in the first place????

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

First article I found by this man was titled something like:

Romney is winning the old fashioned way; he's earning it.

How did that work out, truthwise?

I found the article and it stinks!

First of all, it is not a congressional report. It was 'calculated' by the republican staff of Jeff Sessions--not a govt report at all.

It has all the substance of rice crispy treats.

Enough of this trash!

heyrob Loc: Western Washington

We have talked quite a bit about welfare on this forum, so I thought I would share a couple choice quotes with you.

I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
- Benjamin Franklin, November 1766

Repeal that (welfare) law, and you will soon see a change in their manners. St. Monday and St. Tuesday, will soon cease to be holidays. Six days shalt thou labor, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.
- Benjamin Franklin, letter to Collinson, May 9, 1753

Over 260 years and the liberals still haven't learned the truth that Franklin spoke so long ago. The more you give hand outs, the more you make people lazy, and the more people you'll draw into laziness. A hand up is temporary, a hand out is forever.