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Oct 10, 2013 09:20:20   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)







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Oct 10, 2013 09:39:42   #
casyjones3 Loc: Bronx NY
 
That is awesome.

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Oct 10, 2013 10:20:42   #
EstherP
 
Steve_m wrote:
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)


Definitely worth sharing, but what about the copyright?
Assuming you have permission from the copyright holder, maybe include a line 'Posted with permission from ....'
EstherP

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Oct 10, 2013 10:24:54   #
Tom DePuy Loc: Waxhaw, N.C.
 
nice..

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Oct 10, 2013 10:28:22   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
EstherP wrote:
Definitely worth sharing, but what about the copyright?
Assuming you have permission from the copyright holder, maybe include a line 'Posted with permission from ....'
EstherP


No, I don't have permission, however, there is a trademark in the lower left corner, which indicates the ownership.

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Oct 10, 2013 10:55:59   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Here is what a copyright does. It gives the owner exclusive rights. Several exclusive rights typically attach to the holder of a copyright:
to produce copies or reproductions of the work and to sell those copies (including, typically, electronic copies)
to import or export the work
to create derivative works (works that adapt the original work)
to perform or display the work publicly
to sell or assign these rights to others
to transmit or display by radio or video.

The phrase "exclusive right" means that only the copyright holder is free to exercise those rights, and others are prohibited from using the work without the holder's permission. Copyright is sometimes called a "negative right", as it serves to prohibit certain people (e.g., readers, viewers, or listeners, and primarily publishers and would be publishers) from doing something they would otherwise be able to do, rather than permitting people (e.g., authors) to do something they would otherwise be unable to do. In this way it is similar to the unregistered design right in English law and European law.

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Oct 10, 2013 11:21:13   #
MagicMark
 
Steve_m wrote:
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)


How cute! Love the contrast too! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 10, 2013 13:49:14   #
Bubu Loc: Out of this solar system
 
If they put it out there to be seen, do they want it to be seen or not? I don't think they would object to the little publicity generated by inclusion in an amateur photography forum like this. It is good for them.

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Oct 10, 2013 13:54:12   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Bubu wrote:
If they put it out there to be seen, do they want it to be seen or not? I don't think they would object to the little publicity generated by inclusion in an amateur photography forum like this. It is good for them.


Maybe. But only the copyright holder gets to decide what's "good for them."

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Oct 10, 2013 15:03:01   #
EstherP
 
Bubu wrote:
If they put it out there to be seen, do they want it to be seen or not? I don't think they would object to the little publicity generated by inclusion in an amateur photography forum like this. It is good for them.


Maybe, maybe not.
These images are very clearly marked with a copyright sign and name.That's a message to everyone else "hands off" - whether that is inclusion on a forum like this, or advertising for a safari, or whatever use you can think of. The owner of these photos owns the copyrights - ALL of the copyrights, and he/she gets to say whether someone else may use them, even for generating some publicity.
It also is very easy to find what the owner of the pictures wants. I quote from their website:
"You are granted a limited licence to download the materials contained on this website to a single personal computer, solely for personal, non-commercial use, and provided all copyright, trade mark and other proprietary notices are left intact. Use of the materials contained on this website on any other Internet site is strictly prohibited. The grant of this limited licence is conditional upon your agreement to and compliance with all these Terms and Conditions of Use. Any other use of any of the materials on this website including reproduction, modification, distribution, or republication, without the prior written permission of the Property Owner is strictly prohibited, and is a violation of the Property Owner's proprietary rights." (Emphasis mine).

I fully realize that sometimes there are images on the internet that are very nice for sharing. But rather than lifting them off the site they're found on, it would be better to provide a link to these images, then there won't be a copyright issue. Keep in mind that owners of copyright can and have successfully sued in a court of law.
EstherP

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Oct 11, 2013 02:58:58   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
Steve_m wrote:
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)




Amazing!

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Oct 11, 2013 06:21:18   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Steve_m wrote:
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)


Well worth sharing. Love it :D

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Oct 11, 2013 06:46:01   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
Bubu wrote:
If they put it out there to be seen, do they want it to be seen or not? I don't think they would object to the little publicity generated by inclusion in an amateur photography forum like this. It is good for them.


Now you are entering a legal minefield and a subject that has been debated ad-nausium.

The most sensible course is to not use other peoples pictures and if you feel you need to in order to illustrate some point then full credit and reference should be given to the photographer.

If you Googled images and found some of yours there - quite possible - would you still stick to your comment 'If they put it out there to be seen, do they want it to be seen or not?'

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Oct 11, 2013 08:28:50   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Steve_m wrote:
You Don't Have To Look Like Me To Be My Friend
(Not my shots, but worth sharing)


They are great shots regardless, quite heart warming considering these guys should be enemies. Its ashamed us humans can't get along as well as these two. :thumbup:

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Oct 11, 2013 08:55:06   #
Shakey Loc: Traveling again to Norway and other places.
 
Agree with the copyright comments but I'm glad I saw it. I won't be sending it on!

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