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Oct 6, 2013 05:50:39   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
I had a shoot last weekend and thought I'd try this software...pretty much mandatory with this model...yesh!!!

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Oct 6, 2013 09:27:00   #
Singing Swan
 
Wow, that math teacher is HAWT!!

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Oct 6, 2013 10:09:48   #
John Lawrence
 
Bret wrote:
I had a shoot last weekend and thought I'd try this software...pretty much mandatory with this model...yesh!!!


Great shots. Looks like a young Pamela Anderson. (Not that I ever watched every single episode of Bay Watch plus all the reruns).

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Oct 6, 2013 18:42:02   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Portrait Professional will OVERdo if left to its own. The first one looks like too much. The second one seems better, but I think I might have dialed it back just a bit.

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Oct 7, 2013 05:10:58   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Yes that's one thing iv'e noticed...it starts stretching things or shrinking. Seems half the time I use this software I'm UN-doing allot of it. Here's the last 2 shots from that session...Cos-Play.





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Oct 7, 2013 08:37:26   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
Nicely done. Can you show us a before and after.

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Oct 7, 2013 09:19:44   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Bret wrote:
I had a shoot last weekend and thought I'd try this software...pretty much mandatory with this model...yesh!!!


Nice work and model:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 7, 2013 09:20:54   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Bret wrote:
Yes that's one thing iv'e noticed...it starts stretching things or shrinking. Seems half the time I use this software I'm UN-doing allot of it. Here's the last 2 shots from that session...Cos-Play.


#2 costume is very appropriate. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 7, 2013 16:25:52   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
ecobin wrote:
Nicely done. Can you show us a before and after.

Ok you asked for it....LOL





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Oct 7, 2013 16:29:29   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Honestly....I'm not very fond of any of them. Learning this software will take some more time.

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Oct 8, 2013 10:51:21   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
my first suggestion would be to actually go into photoshop or whatever PP program you use, and spot correct the blemishes, then do the Portrait Professional and dial the skin corrections way back. The airbrushed skin look is way out, especially with all the backlash on photoshopping the heck out of advertising and celebrety photos.

I think we all tend to over correct in the beginning, but as I get older, I have found out that some people actually get offended if you photoshop them too much, they know that their skin isn't "perfect" Show some texture, just leave out the blemishes if that makes sense.

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Oct 8, 2013 11:38:51   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
The key to retouching IMO, is to make people look the way they think they look. one program I use is from Imagenomic called Portraiture. I think it is far better than Portrait Professional and it ONLY helps with skin - it does not try to restructure the face. By having the results on a layer mask, it allows one to erase or change opacity of the effect.

I also use some other techniques that preserve the skin texture but lessen deeper wrinkles without trying to eliminate them.

It is important to use the clone stamp, patch tool, or healing brush FIRST to eliminate the transient stuff like acne, shaving cuts, dark under-eye areas, bruising, etc.

The ideal is to look at the before and after and just know that the After looks better, but not really sure why.

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Oct 8, 2013 12:06:27   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Very good advice from Cliff (CaptainC)
I would read very carefully what he wrote.... Especially the order that things need to happen....

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Oct 22, 2013 09:09:07   #
jonsommer Loc: Usually, somewhere on the U.S. west coast.
 
CaptainC wrote:
The key to retouching IMO, is to make people look the way they think they look. one program I use is from Imagenomic called Portraiture. I think it is far better than Portrait Professional and it ONLY helps with skin - it does not try to restructure the face. By having the results on a layer mask, it allows one to erase or change opacity of the effect.

I also use some other techniques that preserve the skin texture but lessen deeper wrinkles without trying to eliminate them.

It is important to use the clone stamp, patch tool, or healing brush FIRST to eliminate the transient stuff like acne, shaving cuts, dark under-eye areas, bruising, etc.

The ideal is to look at the before and after and just know that the After looks better, but not really sure why.
The key to retouching IMO, is to make people look ... (show quote)


Cliff, thanks for the tip about Portraiture, are there any other software products that are portrait specific that you use and recommend? I heartily agree with your comment that when PP-ing portraits, it's easy to over do it, and then the "life lived" reflected in the face is lost and the portrait becomes uninteresting because the face becomes too perfect and none of us can relate to perfection.

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Oct 25, 2013 01:36:44   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
jonsommer wrote:
Cliff, thanks for the tip about Portraiture, are there any other software products that are portrait specific that you use and recommend? I heartily agree with your comment that when PP-ing portraits, it's easy to over do it, and then the "life lived" reflected in the face is lost and the portrait becomes uninteresting because the face becomes too perfect and none of us can relate to perfection.


Sorry to take so long to get back. A busy week!
If you are careful, the Dynamic Skin Softener in NIK Color efx is pretty good - don't overdo it. I also use a little trick to mask some small defects - add film grain. Also in NIK. Film grain gives a film-quality look to the image and a small amount can do wonders for skin. Shhh - don't tell the SOOC camera crowd, they will have a fit!

Uploading a sample would not work- you have to see the print to see the benefit. In my world-view, it it ain't a print, it is not a photograph. Everything else is just screwing around. ;-)

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