fanuja

Why are all red States Welfare States?

chienfou Loc: Valley Stream, NY

please clarify for me what a welfare state is. I've heard the term often but exactly what that means I don't know. Pardon my ignorance.

Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras

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Rad states like Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea? :shock:

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Have a cow, cat! Those places are anything but RAD, dude!

:lol:

Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras

Hahahah.....you're right, like, ya know, for reals, Dude!!

I never noticed that typo!! :oops: :oops:

JAW Loc: LA

Thank you for your very first post and your thought on this subject. I personally don't look upon a red or blue state as being a "welfare state".
A welfare state is a "concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state
Yes, many influences (within a state) makes a state tend to be less desirable to live and work in than others but, less I digress.
Red or blue has to do with the way a state votes in an election (majority party as to color). States can change their color over time designating or representing how the populace voting has changed regarding political parties within that state. Red designates that a particular state has voted majority Republican and blue designates that a particular state has voted majority Democrat. Being a red state does not necessarily represent a welfare state. I hope that has become clear.
By the way, I see you are in hiding (location). Is your location (no location) self-serving (which red or blue state are you in) - a possible preference by design I presume? Just curious.

Here are other references that may be helpful:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/639266/welfare-state
http://billmoyers.com/2013/06/06/rich-states-poor-states-red-states-blue-states/
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/red-blue-states-summary.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

Beowulf Loc: Aquidneck Island, RI

A well-stated answer.

And it is refreshing to see actual citations from credible sources to substantiate, rather than continually citing polarized bloggers and their opinions, often without attributing the source of the "facts" in their posts.

fanuja

Why are the United States that vote Republican, considered to be Welfare States? Meaning that they receive more money from the Federal Government than they pay in?
Thanks

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

Because it isn't exactly true...this is a game you are playing. 50.00000001% of the voting public votes for one party making it a particular color- the other 49.999999999 no longer count in your reckoning. Come on out from under your bridge and give us source- so we can better prove you are wrong to any thinking person- under your bridge there is no hope.


Here's one I CAN substantiate. Why are the "united States" that vote liberal the ones that run at a deficit ...meaning they spend more then they take in..(Spelled out for the rest of you under your bridge) Also, why do blue states donate a substantial lower percentage of their income to charitable causes? Is it because they would be spending their own money and not digging into the pockets of others?

sye Loc: The Old Dominion Near DC

Please clarify what you describe as Red or Blue states.

If you look at the network tally boards during election day, Blue is for the Dems and Red is for the Republicans

buckwheat Loc: Clarkdale, AZ and Belen NM

Is f-16 back?

Beowulf Loc: Aquidneck Island, RI

Perhaps fajuna's post can be substantiated by the following excerpt by Brett Arends in Market Watch last year. He was addressing the folly of those "red" states considering seceding from the union:

"For most of you in the New Confederacy of the South and West, if you secede you will end up paying more in taxes than you do now, and you will get fewer government services. Forget the so-called “fiscal cliff.” We’re talking about a fiscal Death Star. Your economies will go into recession, and fast.

That’s because your state receives far more back from Uncle Sam in government spending than you pay in federal taxes. If you go it alone, you’ll have to make up the difference yourselves.

Take Alabama. (No jokes, please). It’s among the seven states whose secession petition has landed 30,000 signatures. Its legislature has also passed, and its governor signed a 10th Amendment Resolution. But at the last count, Alabama got back about $1.66 in federal spending for every dollar its citizens paid in federal taxes. The gap — the subsidy the rest of America paid to Alabama — totaled about $3,800 for every person in the state.

Louisiana is also among the seven petitioning for secession. A 10th Amendment resolution has passed both houses of its legislature.

At the last reckoning, Louisiana got back about $1.78 from Uncle Sam for every dollar its citizens pay in. That was about $4,200 per resident.

These figures are admittedly long in the tooth. They date back to 2005. They used to be calculated every year by the Tax Foundation, a conservative-leaning, albeit independent, Washington think tank. Alas, the Foundation says funding dried up for the research. Conservative-leaning donors became reluctant to pony up. You can see why.

While the foundation is no longer doing the math, the general trend has remained the same. The allegedly “low tax,” conservative red states of the South and West are heavily subsidized every year by the federal government. In other words, they are subsidized by the New Union: the states of the Northeast and the West Coast.

The picture was astonishingly consistent year after year as the Tax Foundation did the study.

Take the seven states which have gathered 30,000 or more signatures to secede: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

In the last year for which the Tax Foundation ran the numbers, their residents paid about $473 billion in federal taxes and received about $533 billion in federal spending. In other words the seven states which want to secede the most pocketed a $60 billion subsidy from Uncle Sam. That works out at about $700 for every household in the rest of the country."

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

Most of the Government spending in those States goes to the less fortunate. Are you insinuating that the funds not be given?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Yes, the old democratic FU to the republican states. Maybe it is because the south was an agricultural economy and did not transition well into the industrial economy, maybe it was because after the civil war the federal government so punished the south and allowed it to be decimated by the carpet baggers... Who knows. But what is interesting is that those statistics that you are quoting have changed a great deal in recent years, so you just might want to do a little research before you embarrass yourself, more and more blue states are sucking at the fed tit while traditionally red states are achieving economic freedom alleviating themselves from federal oppression.

jcs Loc: USA

because , unlike the Democrats, the Republicans take good care of the people in their States .