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Oct 1, 2013 02:03:53   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Regardless of your political party affiliation don't you think the president should be the leader of the citizens and not the leader of democrats? Seems to me he has set the tone with his constant and unrelenting attacks on republicans. IMHO good leaders set aside ego and commit their actions to bring a result for the common good.

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Oct 1, 2013 02:12:53   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Zophman wrote:
Regardless of your political party affiliation don't you think the president should be the leader of the citizens and not the leader of democrats? Seems to me he has set the tone with his constant and unrelenting attacks on republicans. IMHO good leaders set aside ego and commit their actions to bring a result for the common good.


I have been watching speech after speech today (9/30), bashing the Republicans and setting them up to take the blame. Of course Democrats believe him - must be faithful to their party. It was a sad day for Pelosi, so she says.

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Oct 1, 2013 02:25:33   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I have been watching speech after speech today (9/30), bashing the Republicans and setting them up to take the blame. Of course Democrats believe him - must be faithful to their party. It was a sad day for Pelosi, so she says.


You have to admidt the games they play are interesting to watch...but I suppose so was Rome when it was on fire.

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Oct 1, 2013 05:59:15   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
Zophman wrote:
You have to admidt the games they play are interesting to watch...but I suppose so was Rome when it was on fire.

Interesting comparison, you think they had as many idiots all working together back then ! ? lol

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Oct 1, 2013 08:56:48   #
Raider Fan Loc: Lake County, IL.
 
Zophman wrote:
Regardless of your political party affiliation don't you think the president should be the leader of the citizens and not the leader of democrats? Seems to me he has set the tone with his constant and unrelenting attacks on republicans. IMHO good leaders set aside ego and commit their actions to bring a result for the common good.


Barry is a complete and utter disgrace to the office and an embarrassment to the American people!

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Oct 1, 2013 09:15:55   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republicans and Boehner is somehow right for blaming the Democrats.
Folks: Reality Check - This is politics.
In case you're not keeping score allow me to enlighten you and let you know that 53% of Americans think the Republicans are to blame and in politics perception is reality.
Today if Boehner was a tad more ballsy and not ruled by the Tea Baggers the headlines could have been all the failures or glitches in Obamacare. Instead everyone is talking about how the House of Representatives shut down the Government under the Speaker's, "leadership".
Woe are the republicans in 2014.

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Oct 1, 2013 09:21:23   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Frank T wrote:
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republicans and Boehner is somehow right for blaming the Democrats.
Folks: Reality Check - This is politics.
In case you're not keeping score allow me to enlighten you and let you know that 53% of Americans think the Republicans are to blame and in politics perception is reality.
Today if Boehner was a tad more ballsy and not ruled by the Tea Baggers the headlines could have been all the failures or glitches in Obamacare. Instead everyone is talking about how the House of Representatives shut down the Government under the Speaker's, "leadership".
Woe are the republicans in 2014.
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republic... (show quote)


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/poll-52-percent-favor-repealing-obamacare_648038.html

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-51-percent-favor-government-shutdown-until-congress-cuts-obamacare/article/2535919

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/01/fox-news-poll-54-percent-say-repeal-health-care-law-85-percent-favor-medical/

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Oct 1, 2013 09:44:30   #
jcs Loc: USA
 
Frank T wrote:
In case you're not keeping score allow me to enlighten you and let you know that 53% of Americans think the Republicans are to blame and in politics perception is reality.


And you got this from your Socialist "News" tabloids ?

I know that you and your Socialist buddies try to pretend that the 2010 Elections never happened , so let me remind you :

The American people kicked 72 Democrats out of the House of Representatives and replaced them with what you call
"Tea Party " members .
It was the highest loss ANY Political Party suffered since 1938 and they were elected with only one mantra :

Stop Obama and his Socialists from
" SPENDING US INTO OBLIVION"

and that is precisely what the majority of the American people elected them to do .

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Oct 1, 2013 10:24:18   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Frank T wrote:
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republicans and Boehner is somehow right for blaming the Democrats.
Folks: Reality Check - This is politics.
In case you're not keeping score allow me to enlighten you and let you know that 53% of Americans think the Republicans are to blame and in politics perception is reality.
Today if Boehner was a tad more ballsy and not ruled by the Tea Baggers the headlines could have been all the failures or glitches in Obamacare. Instead everyone is talking about how the House of Representatives shut down the Government under the Speaker's, "leadership".
Woe are the republicans in 2014.
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republic... (show quote)


Two different comparisons as far as I'm concerned. The president set the stage early on with his ego motivated public statements demeaning Republicans as individuals as well as a group. BOH continually displays his lack of comprehending the role of a leader. He falls short in this regard in a very significant manner.

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Oct 1, 2013 15:00:37   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
jcs wrote:
And you got this from your Socialist "News" tabloids ?

I know that you and your Socialist buddies try to pretend that the 2010 Elections never happened , so let me remind you :

The American people kicked 72 Democrats out of the House of Representatives and replaced them with what you call
"Tea Party " members .
It was the highest loss ANY Political Party suffered since 1938 and they were elected with only one mantra :

Stop Obama and his Socialists from
" SPENDING US INTO OBLIVION"

and that is precisely what the majority of the American people elected them to do .
And you got this from your Socialist "News&qu... (show quote)


Ah the Tea Party - All well educated and refined. Sort of like this woman.



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Oct 1, 2013 15:30:01   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Frank T wrote:
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republicans and Boehner is somehow right for blaming the Democrats.
Folks: Reality Check - This is politics.
In case you're not keeping score allow me to enlighten you and let you know that 53% of Americans think the Republicans are to blame and in politics perception is reality.
Today if Boehner was a tad more ballsy and not ruled by the Tea Baggers the headlines could have been all the failures or glitches in Obamacare. Instead everyone is talking about how the House of Representatives shut down the Government under the Speaker's, "leadership".
Woe are the republicans in 2014.
So the President is wrong for blaming the Republic... (show quote)


Hey Mike Ghallager (Sp) Here is another one... Think I should call him out...
Mike

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Oct 1, 2013 15:32:12   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Frank T wrote:
Ah the Tea Party - All well educated and refined. Sort of like this woman.


She sort of reminds one of the "Obama Phone" woman..

The lady with the sign COULD be using satire to make a point...
The Obama Phone woman was just..................?????

Mike

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Oct 1, 2013 15:44:17   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
jcs wrote: in part...
And you got this from your Socialist "News" tabloids ?

JCS... I have a good friend who is a couple of years older than I am...
He would Love your remark above as he believes and preaches that the Fox News and others are liars, thieves , rapists and just about any other derogatory term you can think of... Gets foam at the mouth ranting when he even tries to talk about them....

SO, since we are GOOD friends.. I challenged him to a very simple and easy chore...

Watch Fox News (NOT OPINION TALKERS) and MSNBC (NOT OPINION TALKERS and CNN (NOT OPINION TALKERS) for at least 2 hours each day for a full week...
The challenge was to keep a list of Lies that he believed each station spoke during those hours...

I waited until the week was over and asked for his results... He said he hadn't typed them out yet... So I waited another week and asked again... Same Answer, so I just asked for an HONEST evaluation....

in 14 hours of watching NEWS for each of 3 channels he had found these results...not necessarily lies, but in his perception he felt that they were.

Fox news... 11
MSNBC...... 27
CNN........ 9

Poor fellow, he almost choked when he told me what his results were.... AND the reason I gave HIM the challenge was that he is scrupulously honest.... so his answers were his HONEST Opinion....

The reason I told this is due to the above "Slander" of news outlets.... I generally ask my "I HATE FOX" friends the following question and I will ask JCS the same question.

When you accuse say FOX or any of the other outlets you hate... Have you read the articles in question, have you checked to see if they were lies, stretches or truth....If you JCS are like my friends. "I WOULDN"T WATCH THAT CRAP, THE LYING BUMS< ETC, ETC...."

Mike

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Oct 1, 2013 15:51:44   #
creativ simon Loc: Coulsdon, South London
 
Zophman wrote:
Regardless of your political party affiliation don't you think the president should be the leader of the citizens and not the leader of democrats? Seems to me he has set the tone with his constant and unrelenting attacks on republicans. IMHO good leaders set aside ego and commit their actions to bring a result for the common good.


We dont have this problem

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Oct 1, 2013 16:30:09   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Frank T wrote:
Ah the Tea Party - All well educated and refined. Sort of like this woman.


It looks like you and that woman have something in common but where you used the word teabagging as in insult but she took an insult to express first Amendment right...

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