jmarazzi
Loc: Moving around to stay out of the HEAT
After 4 years with my Nikon D5000, I've decided it's time to get a new camera. I've done all the back and forth over crop vs full. My favorite photography subjects are landscapes in low light, birds & my grands. I really felt the pain last week, trying to shoot Horseshoe Bend with my 17-270mm Tamron - no way was I getting the breadth of it with my lens. My fellow shooters, with their full frame cameras, got some beautiful photos.
That said, what lens/lenses would you consider the basic must-haves for a full frame? I have the Nikon 105 macro, but my other 3 lenses are for cropped sensors.
Or, should I ask this - is there a "real" wide angle lens that works on a crop sensor? Maybe I'd look at the D7100 then, which I understand is great in low light.
Hmmm - -
jmarazzi wrote:
After 4 years with my Nikon D5000, I've decided it's time to get a new camera. I've done all the back and forth over crop vs full. My favorite photography subjects are landscapes in low light, birds & my grands. I really felt the pain last week, trying to shoot Horseshoe Bend with my 17-270mm Tamron - no way was I getting the breadth of it with my lens. My fellow shooters, with their full frame cameras, got some beautiful photos.
That said, what lens/lenses would you consider the basic must-haves for a full frame? I have the Nikon 105 macro, but my other 3 lenses are for cropped sensors.
Or, should I ask this - is there a "real" wide angle lens that works on a crop sensor? Maybe I'd look at the D7100 then, which I understand is great in low light.
Hmmm - -
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From what I have read here on the Hog unless you are planning on going larger than 16x20 there is no difference (to the naked eye) in the quality of the prints you can get from a D7100 and a D800. That being the case your least expensive alternative is a D7100 and a new wide angle lens.
Of course if you really want to go to full frame you can get a refurbished D600 for under $1600 and then spend anywhere from several hundred to several thousands for full frame lenses.
I went the D600 route, but then I have several full frame lenses (some of which date back to my original Nikon F) which I purchased over the years.
jmarazzi wrote:
After 4 years with my Nikon D5000, I've decided it's time to get a new camera. I've done all the back and forth over crop vs full. My favorite photography subjects are landscapes in low light, birds & my grands. I really felt the pain last week, trying to shoot Horseshoe Bend with my 17-270mm Tamron - no way was I getting the breadth of it with my lens. My fellow shooters, with their full frame cameras, got some beautiful photos.
That said, what lens/lenses would you consider the basic must-haves for a full frame? I have the Nikon 105 macro, but my other 3 lenses are for cropped sensors.
Or, should I ask this - is there a "real" wide angle lens that works on a crop sensor? Maybe I'd look at the D7100 then, which I understand is great in low light.
Hmmm - -
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JM, most of the good shots I've seen of Horseshoe where panos.
That said, what is more important to you, birds or landscapes?
A D800 would probably do both better. Do the math, I think you could crop a bird and still have more resolution than with the 7100, since your longest lens will suddenly be not so long.
As you get wider and wider, the detail gets smaller and smaller. Plus you need a lot of canvas to correct the distortion, and there goes all that width.
Anything will work for the Grands.
I realize the FF is way bigger investment, but your asking. I mean you could just buy beer with it !!
SS
The problem with wide angle lenses on crop cameras is that they give you fields of view 1.5x that of the focal length of the lens, so a 10-24mm wide angle lens will give you a 15mm view at the widest. If you go full frame, you can get the Nikon 10-24mm wide angle, perhaps the best out there. However, it's about 2 grand. However, put that on a D800 and your images would be stunning.
i have canon and nikon...and the 2 lenses i use the 90% of the time are 24-70mm2.8 and 70-200mm2.8
pretty much covers it all unless you are a bird photographer.
SteveR wrote:
You can get the Nikon 10-24mm wide angle, perhaps the best out there. However, it's about 2 grand. However, put that on a D800 and your images would be stunning.
Dang it! Now there's another one to put on my list!
(Edit: show me an FX model. All I see are DX)
The 10-24mm is an APSC lens.
You would not buy it for a full frame camera.
It is not the best out there.
You would buy a 16-35 instead or the highly rated 14-24mm.
SteveR wrote:
The problem with wide angle lenses on crop cameras is that they give you fields of view 1.5x that of the focal length of the lens, so a 10-24mm wide angle lens will give you a 15mm view at the widest. If you go full frame, you can get the Nikon 10-24mm wide angle, perhaps the best out there. However, it's about 2 grand. However, put that on a D800 and your images would be stunning.
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
10-24mm f1.8
24-70mm f2.8
70-200mm f2.8
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Dang it! Now there's another one to put on my list!
(Edit: show me an FX model. All I see are DX)
Sorry Goof, it's the 14-24mm fx lens.
The must haves.
This is obviously only me but
#1 has to be the ultrawide zoom.
For me it would be the 16-35mm because it takes filters and is smaller, lighter and easier to use than the higher IQ 14-24.
Next would be the 100mm macro which you already have.
jmarazzi wrote:
After 4 years with my Nikon D5000, I've decided it's time to get a new camera. I've done all the back and forth over crop vs full. My favorite photography subjects are landscapes in low light, birds & my grands. I really felt the pain last week, trying to shoot Horseshoe Bend with my 17-270mm Tamron - no way was I getting the breadth of it with my lens. My fellow shooters, with their full frame cameras, got some beautiful photos.
That said, what lens/lenses would you consider the basic must-haves for a full frame? I have the Nikon 105 macro, but my other 3 lenses are for cropped sensors.
Or, should I ask this - is there a "real" wide angle lens that works on a crop sensor? Maybe I'd look at the D7100 then, which I understand is great in low light.
Hmmm - -
After 4 years with my Nikon D5000, I've decided it... (
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wsa111
Loc: Goose Creek, South Carolina
A great lens is the 28-300.
You can cover 90% of what you want to shoot.
A 70-200-2.8 if you want to empty your wallet is a great lens.
16-35 F4 is also a good choice.
The nice thing about a full frame camera is that you can use all the lenses from a 35mm film camera.
A 16mm fisheye is a nice extra.
wsa111 wrote:
A great lens is the 28-300.
You can cover 90% of what you want to shoot.
A 70-200-2.8 if you want to empty your wallet is a great lens.
16-35 F4 is also a good choice.
The nice thing about a full frame camera is that you can use all the lenses from a 35mm film camera.
A 16mm fisheye is a nice extra.
Ditto on the 28-300. As highly recommended as the 24-70 and 70-200 are, the 28-300 is a crystal clear lens. It's just not a 2.8. At my level, however, the 28-300 is making it difficult to justify one of those. A wide angle is a possibility, however, as is a longer lens down the line sometime.
jmarazzi
Loc: Moving around to stay out of the HEAT
Boy - some great lenses. Now I'm back to the flip-flop re which camera.
It's amazing, I buy cars and houses with less angst than what I put myself through for camera equipment.
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