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Dec 7, 2011 21:22:00   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
So, what do you think about the big announcement that will be made soon?

"The Higgs boson is theorized to be the "force carrier" of the Higgs field -- a field thought to permeate the entire Universe, endowing matter with mass. Only by using powerful particle accelerators like the LHC do we stand a chance of seeing these mysterious particles."

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/07/rumors-explode-over-higgs-boson-discovery/?test=faces

Or, should we just have a "What are they talking about?" attitude? Cause most of us probably have no idea; nor do we care.

Now, we might be interested if Higgs should be the next revolutionary photographic discovery ... we might be able to take pictures of unseen particles, in HDR holograms.

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Dec 7, 2011 21:31:44   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
I know this stuff makes some sense to very scientific minds; leaving the rest of us spinning in the fog of ignorance.

Sort of like when photographers talk about F-stops, macro lenses, depth of field, and other such jargon. Even those familiar terms are foreign words to most people we encounter every day.

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Dec 7, 2011 22:24:27   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Wow MW. I love this stuff. Been trying to track the progress of the Higgs. Last I heard they may have to redo the math for Quantum Mechanics if they didn't find the Higgs. I figured it would come out of CERN and not Fermilab. I have a Physicist friend that works at the University of Auburn on Fusion. I think it might be time to give him a call.

This is really exciting!

Thanks for the link.

Russ

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Dec 8, 2011 06:18:52   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
You're welcome!

I knew somebody would be interested in this topic. I kind of made fun of it, but that's a feeble attempt to deal with something I know nothing about.

We need people who think outside of the boxes, or even the seen universe.

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Dec 8, 2011 08:39:37   #
Singing Swan
 
I think the world will never be the same if they manage to photograph gravity

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Dec 8, 2011 08:53:52   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
MisterWilson wrote:
So, what do you think about the big announcement that will be made soon?
Depending on the actual content of the announcement, this could be something relatively cool in the physics world. Wonder if Sheldon Cooper had anything to do with it?

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Dec 8, 2011 09:20:27   #
Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
 
JimH wrote:
MisterWilson wrote:
So, what do you think about the big announcement that will be made soon?
Depending on the actual content of the announcement, this could be something relatively cool in the physics world. Wonder if Sheldon Cooper had anything to do with it?


This may be cool, but it could also be very dangerous. Scientists have a habit of playing around with things that are not fully understood, only theories. When the first hydrogen bomb was exploded there were many scientists crossing their fingers that it would not ignite the entire atmosphere of the earth. Creating matter from "nothing" is supposedly how the Big Bang came about. That is a very little understood phenomenon and some believe the Higgs Boson was instrumental in that happening. If so, could it be done accidentally? That would sure put a crimp in our day!! :thumbdown:

Hopefully Murphy's Law will stay away from this one.

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Dec 8, 2011 09:54:42   #
Bruce Mather
 
It's interesting that this announcement comes right on the heels of another "world shaking" announcement that nuetrinos can travel faster than the speed of light. If this proves true then Einstein's theory of relativity, upon which all modern physics is based, is wrong. He said that nothing could ever travel faster than the speed of light. Yet the discovery of the HB seems to prove that it is correct. Up until now this was only a theoretical concept which we believed but for which there was no proof.

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Dec 8, 2011 10:28:23   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
I'll try thinking outside the box ....

What if someone invents a camera that will be able to record events after they occur? Theoretically, crime investigators could go to a crime scene and record what happened there at some time in the past; effectively documenting what happened, and who was involved. That would set a whole new set of parameters for police, the lawyers, jurors, and judges; not to mention the potentially accused perpetrator, and any victim.


Just supposin' ....

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Dec 8, 2011 13:54:54   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
You guys are making my head hurt.

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Dec 8, 2011 14:37:51   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
Just stick your head in between these twp particle desintegrators and your headache will be zapped to smithereens. Of course, that will cost about 2 million dollars for a one minute treatment.

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Dec 8, 2011 18:19:07   #
dasboat Loc: Vernonia,Ore.(Vernowhere)
 
MisterWilson wrote:
I'll try thinking outside the box ....

What if someone invents a camera that will be able to record events after they occur? Theoretically, crime investigators could go to a crime scene and record what happened there at some time in the past; effectively documenting what happened, and who was involved. That would set a whole new set of parameters for police, the lawyers, jurors, and judges; not to mention the potentially accused perpetrator, and any victim.

I don't your to far off thinking this way, they say time is recorded in such a fashion,it never goes away but is recorded somehow on fabics around us.I've studied physic's for years and have been fasinated at the Higgs/God partical since I first learned of it in the 80's.Just last week I read CERN was having problems observing the Higgs due to a stange dust partical kept blocking observations...Angel dust ??

Just supposin' ....
I'll try thinking outside the box .... br br What... (show quote)

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Dec 13, 2011 12:06:38   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
Guess what? Today was the big announcement day; and they still aren't sure if they've come any closer to finding "the god particle."

"“We cannot exclude the presence of the Standard Model Higgs between 115 and 127 GeV because of a modest excess of events in this mass region that appears, quite consistently, in five independent channels,” Tonelli said. “As of today what we see is consistent either with a background fluctuation or with the presence of the boson."

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/13/search-closes-in-on-elusive-higgs-particle/

Well, if we've waited 13.7 billions of years, it won't hurt to wait a few more eons. What's the big rush? 2012 will be soon enough. At least when they make their findings known, there will be no ambiguity in their words, and the whole world will be assured that their findings are unequivocally correct.

In the meantime, I guess Genesis 1:1 will just have to do.

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Dec 14, 2011 14:52:42   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
MisterWilson wrote:
Guess what? Today was the big announcement day; and they still aren't sure if they've come any closer to finding "the god particle."
In the meantime, I guess Genesis 1:1 will just have to do.

Peter Higgs apparently never cared for the term 'god particle'. Anyone know who invented the phrase?

Cheers,

R.

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Dec 14, 2011 14:56:12   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
MisterWilson wrote:
Guess what? Today was the big announcement day; and they still aren't sure if they've come any closer to finding "the god particle."
In the meantime, I guess Genesis 1:1 will just have to do.

Peter Higgs apparently never cared for the term 'god particle'. Anyone know who invented the phrase?

Cheers,

R.
I have a book written by physicist Leon Lederman, published 1993, entitled "The God Particle" On page 22, he admits to giving the elusive little bugger its' nickname.

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