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Sep 20, 2013 15:36:54   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
California Democrat to Sen. Ted Cruz aide: I hope your kids 'die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases' after vote against Obamacare
The comment and the heated exchanged that followed began after Cruz aide Amanda Carpenter tweeted praise for the GOP for voting to derail Obamacare. Allan Brauer, communications chair of the Democratic Party of Sacramento County, responded with the tweet, drawing tons of criticism and finally an apology for bringing Carpenter's children into the debate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/calif-dem-slammed-inflammatory-tweet-sen-ted-cruz-aide-article-1.1462716#ixzz2fSh4mcOF


Mike

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Sep 20, 2013 15:38:37   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
You will notice that he did not apologize for saying the nasty words, only that he apologized for bringing the children into the nastiness... No doubt if he had thought a min or two, he would have named her instead of her kids..

Mike

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Sep 20, 2013 15:41:32   #
Aldebaran Loc: Florida
 
How sad a senator would vote to defund Obamacare because it does not fit his ideology of defending the big corporations at the expense of the needy. Just Another perspective.

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Sep 20, 2013 15:45:40   #
FrumCA
 
Typical! Resort to personal insults, name calling, put downs and whatever nasty thoughts come to mind when challenged.

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Sep 20, 2013 15:46:30   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Aldebaran wrote:
How sad a senator would vote to defund Obamacare because it does not fit his ideology of defending the big corporations at the expense of the needy. Just Another perspective.

It is correct to vote based on one's ideology and your characterization of his ideology is incorrect.

What is sad is that someone and their children are personally attacked based on a vote. :|

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Sep 20, 2013 15:56:22   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
My high school vice principal once told my mom that he wishes my brother and I would get sent to Viet Nam WITHOUT a gun.
Then at church on Sundays he would sit across the aisle from her and make nasty faces at her.
This was back in 1969.

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Sep 21, 2013 10:53:33   #
kemo Loc: Tampa, FL
 
He's right. When democrats do it, it's horrible. When republicans do it, merely self expression. I'm sick of both of them

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Sep 21, 2013 17:00:45   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
picturedude wrote:
My high school vice principal once told my mom that he wishes my brother and I would get sent to Viet Nam WITHOUT a gun.
Then at church on Sundays he would sit across the aisle from her and make nasty faces at her.
This was back in 1969.
Dude....was that because you and your brother keyed his car, slit his tires, set the school on fire, broke 32 windows and got his daughter pregnant?

:lol:

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Sep 21, 2013 17:15:15   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
Well, yes but let me explain.....

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Sep 21, 2013 17:57:28   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
picturedude wrote:
Well, yes but let me explain.....


:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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Sep 21, 2013 20:55:25   #
64418 Loc: Vallejo, Ca
 
Aldebaran wrote:
How sad a senator would vote to defund Obamacare because it does not fit his ideology of defending the big corporations at the expense of the needy. Just Another perspective.


Must suck being so uninformed. It's the corporations that are getting a break, along with the unions and our esteemed representatives. Oh, did I mentioned the president as well?
None of them are participating in the program. In California the cost of Health insurance has gone up 100% in a year, doctors a leaving the medical field, hospitals and corporations are laying off people etc. and all for a program that will still leave 35,000,000 Americans uninsured and those that are, paying more.

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Sep 22, 2013 00:11:47   #
thegrover Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
 
64418 wrote:
Must suck being so uninformed. It's the corporations that are getting a break, along with the unions and our esteemed representatives. Oh, did I mentioned the president as well?
None of them are participating in the program. In California the cost of Health insurance has gone up 100% in a year, doctors a leaving the medical field, hospitals and corporations are laying off people etc. and all for a program that will still leave 35,000,000 Americans uninsured and those that are, paying more.


From NBC news
The cost to a 40-year-old who needs coverage would vary from about $40 to $300 per month for a mid-level plan in California, depending on income. Some young adults, who are less expensive to cover, could pay nothing, depending on how much they earn.

The prices in California, along with those announced in Washington, Vermont and other states, show that premiums under "Obamacare" can be more affordable than had previously been thought. Consumer advocates welcomed the new exchange.

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Sep 22, 2013 10:44:53   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
thegrover wrote:
From NBC news
The prices in California, along with those announced in Washington, Vermont and other states, show that premiums under "Obamacare" can be more affordable than had previously been thought. Consumer advocates welcomed the new exchange.

More affordable than "previously thought?" Wait a minute, the Affordable Care Act was touted from the beginning by supporters saying the bill would reduce health insurance costs, so why think otherwise? :D

Hmmm, wonder how they will attempt to keep those costs down. Maybe by.......

Insurers limiting doctors, hospitals in health insurance market
Insurers in California's new health insurance exchange are holding down premiums by limiting choices, raising concerns that patients will struggle to get care.

The doctor can't see you now.

Consumers may hear that a lot more often after getting health insurance under President Obama's Affordable Care Act.

To hold down premiums, major insurers in California have sharply limited the number of doctors and hospitals available to patients in the state's new health insurance market opening Oct. 1.

Above excerpted from: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-insure-doctor-networks-20130915,0,2814725.story

Enjoy. 8-)

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Sep 22, 2013 11:20:47   #
64418 Loc: Vallejo, Ca
 
thegrover wrote:
From NBC news
The cost to a 40-year-old who needs coverage would vary from about $40 to $300 per month for a mid-level plan in California, depending on income. Some young adults, who are less expensive to cover, could pay nothing, depending on how much they earn.

Actually here is an article from Forbes that will clear thing up for you. I actually live in this dump of a state and have already felt the rate hikes resulting simply from the passage of this legislation that had to be passed before our representatives could read it. One hell of a way to write law.

I recommend you go to the attached link and read it all, I just wanted to give you a taste of my reality.

The prices in California, along with those announced in Washington, Vermont and other states, show that premiums under "Obamacare" can be more affordable than had previously been thought. Consumer advocates welcomed the new exchange.
From NBC news br The cost to a 40-year-old who ne... (show quote)


"Last week, the state of California claimed that its version of Obamacare’s health insurance exchange would actually reduce premiums. “These rates are way below the worst-case gloom-and-doom scenarios we have heard,” boasted Peter Lee, executive director of the California exchange. But the data that Lee released tells a different story: Obamacare, in fact, will increase individual-market premiums in California by as much as 146 percent.

One of the most serious flaws with Obamacare is that its blizzard of regulations and mandates drives up the cost of insurance for people who buy it on their own.
Here’s what happened. Last week, Covered California—the name for the state’s Obamacare-compatible insurance exchange—released the rates that Californians will have to pay to enroll in the exchange.

“The rates submitted to Covered California for the 2014 individual market,” the state said in a press release, “ranged from two percent above to 29 percent below the 2013 average premium for small employer plans in California’s most populous regions.”

That’s the sentence that led to all of the triumphant commentary from the left. “This is a home run for consumers in every region of California,” exulted Peter Lee.

Except that Lee was making a misleading comparison. He was comparing apples—the plans that Californians buy today for themselves in a robust individual market—and oranges—the highly regulated plans that small employers purchase for their workers as a group. The difference is critical. Obamacare to double individual-market premiums

If you’re a 25 year old non-smoker, buying insurance for yourself, the cheapest plan on Obamacare’s exchanges is the catastrophic plan, which costs an average of $184 a month. (By “average,” I mean the median monthly premium across California’s 19 insurance rating regions.)

The next cheapest plan, the “bronze” comprehensive plan, costs $205 a month. But in 2013, on eHealthInsurance.com (NASDAQ:EHTH), the median cost of the five cheapest plans was only $92.

In other words, for the typical 25-year-old non-smoking Californian, Obamacare will drive premiums up by between 100 and 123 percent.

Under Obamacare, only people under the age of 30 can participate in the slightly cheaper catastrophic plan. So if you’re 40, your cheapest option is the bronze plan. In California, the median price of a bronze plan for a 40-year-old male non-smoker will be $261.

But on eHealthInsurance, the median cost of the five cheapest plans was $121. That is, Obamacare will increase individual-market premiums by an average of 116 percent.

For both 25-year-olds and 40-year-olds, then, Californians under Obamacare who buy insurance for themselves will see their insurance premiums double."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/30/rate-shock-in-california-obamacare-to-increase-individual-insurance-premiums-by-64-146/

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