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Sep 19, 2013 16:52:41   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
A constant problem with the advent of bigger sensor, bigger pictures is the storage space.

128GB cards are out and for the time are near or under $1.00 per GB

Current offering
Komputerbay 128GB Professional Compact Flash (600x) 129.99
Kingston Digital SDX 128 GB (10) 84.29

Because I have a camera that uses both and uses about 60MB for each shot (RAW+JPG) I ordered one of each to replace my 64MB cards that went full onto one afternoon shoot on my own. These cards are now a backup.

Now, w/o entering details on what is right and wrong, what is your opinion on the storage space progress and the growing need for it as the sensors become more and more capable?

Remember that in the early 1990s a 30MB HDD was excessive, now we laugh at it.

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Sep 19, 2013 17:18:29   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
My question is; what is the real purpose of shooting RAW + Jpeg? I have read all sorts of answers to this question but none has satisfied me yet. Do you understand what I am saying? To me, it seems more like a waste of time, not to mention space. Please understand that I am not knocking it. There must be an importance to it that I do not see. Otherwise, why would manufacturers always put this in as an added feature when they include RAW capability into their cameras?

With that being said, you are a prime candidate for the larger cards. Very understandable. If the 10's are fast enough for you, then you are probably wasting your money on faster speed cards. Kingston is a good brand and the price seems right. With the money you save here, you are freed up to buy an extra card or two. Just an idea.

Tom

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Sep 19, 2013 18:23:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Honestly the RAW+JPG is to share instantly if the picture is good enough. It is, as you point out, a waste of space and time.

This is my use and opinion on that and in no way a definitive answer to your question... When I backup all the JPGs go to the dump but when I edit a raw in CS I keep the edited version and the RAW but on separate backup.

Now back to the storage space IN camera...

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Sep 19, 2013 18:44:37   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
I prefer to use a number of smaller cards. If I shoot 300 photos in an afternoon (unusual) and lose one card, I'd rather ALL my photos weren't on that one card. Or if the card fails, I don't want to lose everything. That's my practice. :thumbup:

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Sep 19, 2013 18:54:02   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Danilo wrote:
I prefer to use a number of smaller cards. If I shoot 300 photos in an afternoon (unusual) and lose one card, I'd rather ALL my photos weren't on that one card. Or if the card fails, I don't want to lose everything. That's my practice. :thumbup:

You are rejoining RJ1 on that way of thinking. I agree with it, up to a point and only because there is nothing wrong with being cautious.

One question thought, have you had any memory card go bad on you or did you lose any?

So far I have not experienced this. (knocking on my head now - to ward off the damned Murphy critter lurking around).
:shock: :mrgreen:

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Sep 19, 2013 20:05:06   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Danilo wrote:
I prefer to use a number of smaller cards. If I shoot 300 photos in an afternoon (unusual) and lose one card, I'd rather ALL my photos weren't on that one card. Or if the card fails, I don't want to lose everything. That's my practice. :thumbup:
Normally this is my way of thinking. But the OP is shooting rather large files in the first place. So I figure that one needs to put in in perspective (for lack of a better term).

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Sep 19, 2013 21:32:17   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
I use a 16GB SD card and shoot only RAW. I store my RAW files on my computer after each days shoot. If I want a jpeg file then I will convert what ever picture or pictures I want to jpeg. If I want to work on a picture in Photoshop, I will transfer it into Photoshop. This way I save space in camera and on my hard drive by just keeping to RAW files.
128GB card? I would love one that size. I never keep pictures on my SD cards. And I also shoot large files.

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Sep 19, 2013 22:47:26   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Hi... have absolutely no Knowledge about RAW, but Rongnongno asked if someone had ever had a bad card or any had been lost..

I have probably been amazingly lucky in that neither has ever happened to me... I started my Digital "Career" in Nov. 1999 with an Olympus C2100UZ which used Smart Cards... Graduated to a camera that used either Smart Cards of CF Cards, then finally got into the big time with SD Cards.... 14 years later I am still using my Original Smart Card in my Original C2100UZ and both are working great. My present "newest" Camera is an Olympus TG-2 which, of course uses SD cards and I use both new and OLD SD Cards.....

Sorry to those who don't believe.... BUT God takes care of idiots and photographers..... at least some of us..

Mike

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Sep 20, 2013 00:03:27   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
venturer9 wrote:
Hi... have absolutely no Knowledge about RAW, but Rongnongno asked if someone had ever had a bad card or any had been lost..

I have probably been amazingly lucky in that neither has ever happened to me... I started my Digital "Career" in Nov. 1999 with an Olympus C2100UZ which used Smart Cards... Graduated to a camera that used either Smart Cards of CF Cards, then finally got into the big time with SD Cards.... 14 years later I am still using my Original Smart Card in my Original C2100UZ and both are working great. My present "newest" Camera is an Olympus TG-2 which, of course uses SD cards and I use both new and OLD SD Cards.....

Sorry to those who don't believe.... BUT God takes care of idiots and photographers..... at least some of us..

Mike
Hi... have absolutely no Knowledge about RAW, but ... (show quote)
Lol. I am an idiot and I call my self a photographer. I don't think I should do that just yet. But I am sure that God is still looking after me and my SD cards.

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Sep 20, 2013 08:11:23   #
DaveMM Loc: Port Elizabeth, South Africa
 
tainkc wrote:
My question is; what is the real purpose of shooting RAW + Jpeg? I have read all sorts of answers to this question but none has satisfied me yet.
I only use RAW but, having read all the posts that recommended RAW+JPG, I thought there could be merit in this. I found I never used the JPG files, so quickly went back to RAW only.

When I have taken 'snapshots', at say a party, I find it very quick to do a standard conversion. However, when I am in my attempt at 'photographer' mode, the RAW files are so adjustable that I can get the end result I want.

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Sep 20, 2013 09:07:09   #
Wardo Loc: SE Idaho
 
Not sure this adds what you want to your question, but recently I started shooting RAW +JPEG with the JPEG set to B&W. I am trying to teach myself to see B&W opportunities better. I have seen some improvement when I size up a composition so maybe...

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Sep 20, 2013 10:32:57   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
Danilo wrote:
I prefer to use a number of smaller cards. If I shoot 300 photos in an afternoon (unusual) and lose one card, I'd rather ALL my photos weren't on that one card. Or if the card fails, I don't want to lose everything. That's my practice. :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 20, 2013 11:04:52   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
To the folks who prefer using a bunch of smaller cards:

I agree with you but what are the size of your pictures (RAW or JPG)? This plays a role when using a card. If the size is under 20MB it indeed is the best option as you can collect 1k or more per card but if it is triple that size?

The 'not all eggs in the basket' works well with chicken but if you have ostrich eggs? Do you not need a hamper vs a basket to carry the same the same number?

This is the question, really. Hence:
what is your opinion on the storage space progress and the growing need for it as the sensors become more and more capable?

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Sep 20, 2013 11:08:56   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
shooting in raw will fill up a card in a hurry,it would be nice if your camera told us when to change cards. who are these people shooting 300-600 pics in a afternoon?

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Sep 20, 2013 11:25:30   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
err... I shot about 400 in an hour while preparing a stitched panorama... Filled two 16GB cards in a hurry.

Camera does tell us when to change a card, it says 'full'. :mrgreen:

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