Nightski

So far what I have noticed is that when you want to leave a program, you mouse over the lower left corner and bring up the start screen.(aka metro screen) When you do that, you are leaving the program. Once in the Metro Screen you can choose a tile there, or click on the desktop tile to access the links you have to programs on the desktop. I think all these programs stay open in the background. If you right click on the screen, all the programs that you have open, will show up on the top of your screen in mini screens. You will see an X on the mini screens to close these programs if you want to. Just always remember to mouse over that bottom left corner to get around. Hope that helps. MW...Papa Joe... any comments on this? Am I going wrong anywhere?

BigJake Loc: Anaconda, MT

Thank you, I will try that. I think this forum is great. I love everything about it.

pdwoodswood Loc: Lewisville, NC

Somehow the complete message was not posted. Completing the message; I liked nothing about WIN 8; switching to Win 8, to me, seemed learning an entirely new OS. also very little I knew about Win 7 seemed, again to me, transferable to Win 8.
After 25+ years with MS & HP caused me to jump ship into Apple MacBook Pro-Retina and OSX- Mountain Lion. After couple months all was well. Now have 8 months with Apple and have not looked back....not even once.
I had been disgusted with the HP computers for 2-3 years. When my previous HP died I again purchased the best HP 17" screen at Best Buy, the damn beast came with Win 8. The OS seemed foreign, so I spent an extra $600.00 + and purchased MacBook Pro...love it. Why spend so many $$.....it has been my life long philosophy to purchase at the upper price range for the toys; camera & lens, audio, lathes & equipment, machine & woodworking tools,
ket.al. Never regretted the philosophy and realized I was fortunate that I could afford the
various purchases without breaking the bank. My wife also enjoys buying what she wishes, dollar for dollar. Fair is Fair.
This became too long............
So what photography stuff I have; Canon 5D, L ENSES; 100 MM MACRO, 24-105, 70-300,
600 EX FLASH AND related miscellaneous accessories. I do try and stay under $2,000.00 for a lens. An excellent lens can be mostly a lifetime thing, camera bodies can be purchased as the technology improves.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

If you are familiar with Windows 7, you can make Windows 8 look and work the same. The following is from my post earlier in this thread.

Windows 8 is most similar to Windows 7 and can easily be made to look almost exactly like Windows 7 easily, for free and with no down side . There is no need for a touch screen for photo editing since most editing software does not support that feature anyway.

Windows 8 is far from a disaster. It is by far the fastest and most stable version of Windows to date. I have used Windows as a user and software developer since the first stable version, Windows 3.1, back in 1992. Most of the issues people are having with it are generally a result of older software incompatibility, outdated drivers, especially for older hardware, and incompatibilities as a result of moving from a 32 bit to 64 bit environment. While there are occasionally other software issues that don't fall in the above categories, they are an unfortunate result of a moving to a new operating system. There are problems that occur every time a new OS is rolled out and are often a result of the software designers not strictly following Microsoft's design rules. Early versions of an OS may be more tolerant of design errors than later versions . Windows 8 is no worse than any other in that regard. I could tell you horror stories about moving from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. Initially there was a huge outcry of anger. How dare Microsoft change the interface! Things never change. Beyond the occasional software and hardware issues, the concerns most people have are in regard to two obvious design changes.

Windows 8 includes two environments, the Desktop and the Metro screen.

Desktop differences- the missing Start menu
One change is to the desktop, which is similar to the one on Windows 7, minus one important feature, the Start menu. However, there are several 3rd party Start menus available for free that look and work almost identically to the Windows 7 Start Menu. I've tried a few of the available ones and personally use Classic Start Menu version 3.6.8. http://www.classicshell.net/ It is very configurable and can be made to emulate 3 styles of Windows Start menus including Windows 7 and Windows XP. With the Classic Start menu in place the Windows 8 desktop will look and feel just like Windows 7.

The Metro Screen- the new "Start menu"
The second, and most obvious and annoying change to many, is the inclusion of what has been dubbed the Metro screen. The Metro screen is designed for touch screens and to provide ease of use on portable devices like the Windows phones and Windows 8 based tablets. The look and feel of the Metro screen, which is tile based, rather than Window or icon based, is identical on all these devices. The Metro screen includes a number of functionally limited applications primarily to view things like the news or photos or videos. It even has its own separate and functionally limited version of Internet Explorer. The full version is only available on the Desktop. It was also intended to serve as the new Start screen for Windows 8. In fact when Windows 8 boots up it defaults to the Metro screen. The desktop can be reached by clicking on one of the tiles there. Its frankly all very annoying. There are probably relatively few applications specifically available for use by the Metro screen that traditional desk top users would find of great interest. These applications are also full screen only! Windows 8 also displays controls differently than Windows 7 so as an example, its not easy the first time you use it to figure out how to configure or even shut down Windows!

Boot Directly into the Desktop and bypass the Metro Screen
The 3rd party start menus, like the one I mentioned above, also can be configured to boot directly into the desktop bypassing the Metro screen altogether and giving the user a very Windows 7 like experience. One can go back and forth to the Metro at any time if desired, but its not necessary. To rehash, 3rd party start menus like the one I mentioned will result in a thoroughly Windows 7 like experience on a faster and more robust platform with many additional features. Hope this helped.

rebride

I am interested in what you are doing. Do you put the whole program(s), files (application, exe, etc.) in the folder? Is that the folder you 'save a program to' when downloading a program rather than elsewhere on your computer?
If you have created this folder (or shoutcut to) on the desktop can you not also pin/tile to the Metro screen? I have the most of my desktop icons also as a tile so if in either screen I do not need switch.

Nightski

Right click on the UHH page. Below the URL with show with four icons to the right of it. One of the icons is a push pin. Click on that. The other icons are refresh, page tools, and forward. That should help. :-)

Nightski

Another thing I have noticed is that the scroll bar disappears. Just mouse over to the right of the screen and it will reappear.

rebride

Also, If you haven't actually closed the program but just want to get back to it, go to the upper left corner. It will open a sidebar of all open windows down the left side. If in the desktop they will be down in the taskbar like Xp or 7.
When going to the corners slide or more like push the cursor right into the corner like you are going out of bounds. Because the corner functions are 'hidden' it is confusing. You start to mouse there and start to question why? Take 5- 10 minutes to just bop around the corners, don't open anything, just keep going corner to corner. Like Nightski says, 'repetitions'. It will become second nature quickly.

Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.

I feel your pain, Jake! I felt the same way but am now learning there are many possibilities with '8'. Read my post (up above) to Nightski. I only use the 'Metro' screen to leave it by hitting the Windows key, and going to the Desktop, where I'm more comfortable.
I like the old way with START/PROGRAMS, then pick your program, and that's how I have mine set up now. Little by little, I'll have this darned thing converted back to XP :) Hang in there... it only gets better.

RMM Loc: Suburban New York

I'm not sure if this would help, but I have a folder on the Dock (Mac OS X) labeled "My Stuff." I have populated it with aliases ("shortcuts" in Windows parlance) pointing to key folders and applications that I frequently use. Perhaps you could create tiles in Windows 8 that are foldesr containing shortcuts to your groups of similar applications or documents.

Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.

Exactly what I've done, RMM, thank you. I created a 'Programs' folder on the Desktop and list all my shortcuts in it, properly organized, each in the appropriate folder within the Program folder. Works for me.

Rabbott Loc: Grass Valley , California

I'm not at all concerned about how different windows 8 is,, that's not a bother at all. what i have a problem with , is so many times when i try to open some window, it will say this page is not available,, usually, it's my email program, or some music thing i'm trying to download, i will have to reboot, sometimes 3 or 4 times, before i can get it to open my email,,, very frustrating,, many times it will say i'm not connected to the internet, but i am,,, the same wi fi works just fine, with other machines.

Rabbott Loc: Grass Valley , California

I'm not at all concerned about how different windows 8 is,, that's not a bother at all. what i have a problem with , is so many times when i try to open some window, it will say this page is not available,, usually, it's my email program, or some music thing i'm trying to download, i will have to reboot, sometimes 3 or 4 times, before i can get it to open my email,,, very frustrating,, many times it will say i'm not connected to the internet, but i am,,, the same wi fi works just fine, with other machines.

Nightski

You know, I have noticed that my pages disappear. I have dual monitors, and when I try to get something up on the second monitor the thing I had on the first one disappears. I haven't figured that out yet. There is a setting somewhere that's making you crazy. And me too. It's just a matter of figuring it out.

Rabbott Loc: Grass Valley , California

Awwwh,,,, i'll get it,, i guess as i get older, i just don't like change as much. it does seem to be getting better, but not because of anything i did,, maybe it's learning.I thank you for your comments.