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Sep 14, 2013 21:29:00   #
Dave Johnson Loc: Grand Rapids, Michigan
 
Hey fellow Hogs, I'm looking for a good Polarizing filter. I've been looking at the Helicon, B&H, Hoya HD, among others. Does anyone have experience with any of these filters? What I want to know is:

Do they operate smoothly?

Is the transition from polarized to not-polarized smooth and linear?

Are there any significant differences that might influence my decision?

What are your recommendations?

I'm willing to spend up to $300 each for a 77mm and a 82mm and I'll be using it primarily for landscape photography. Thanks for your opinions and thoughts.

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Sep 14, 2013 21:36:05   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
I use hoya polarizers and tiffen ND filters, very happy with their quality

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Sep 14, 2013 21:48:06   #
EricLPT Loc: Jonesborough TN
 
Dave Johnson wrote:
Hey fellow Hogs, I'm looking for a good Polarizing filter. I've been looking at the Helicon, B&H, Hoya HD, among others. Does anyone have experience with any of these filters? What I want to know is:

Do they operate smoothly?

Is the transition from polarized to not-polarized smooth and linear?

Are there any significant differences that might influence my decision?

What are your recommendations?

I'm willing to spend up to $300 each for a 77mm and a 82mm and I'll be using it primarily for landscape photography. Thanks for your opinions and thoughts.
Hey fellow Hogs, I'm looking for a good Polarizing... (show quote)


All the big names are good, that's why they are big names.

I would buy one 82mm and a step down 82-77mm ring and save the cost of the smaller filter.

Eric

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Sep 14, 2013 22:10:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Dave Johnson wrote:
Hey fellow Hogs, I'm looking for a good Polarizing filter. I've been looking at the Helicon, B&H, Hoya HD, among others. Does anyone have experience with any of these filters? What I want to know is:

Do they operate smoothly?

Is the transition from polarized to not-polarized smooth and linear?

Are there any significant differences that might influence my decision?

What are your recommendations?

I'm willing to spend up to $300 each for a 77mm and a 82mm and I'll be using it primarily for landscape photography. Thanks for your opinions and thoughts.
Hey fellow Hogs, I'm looking for a good Polarizing... (show quote)

I'm on the iPad, so I can't give you the link, but if you Google polarizer reviews, you will find a detailed on from Poland.

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Sep 14, 2013 23:05:06   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
I agree with Eric's idea...get the 82mm and a stepping ring to use it on your 77mm diameter lens. I like my B+W polarizing filters. They use brass rings, and are flawless.

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Sep 14, 2013 23:20:10   #
Ken Shilkun Loc: Central Texas
 
What I have discovered:
1. Body material makes difference. Since not all shots require a Polarizing filter, they are attached and removed constantly. Since the fine threads and large diameter lead to cross threading by an excited photographer, A material that is tolerant of clumsy fingers is a must.
a. The cheaper lenses use plastic which is a bit flexible, allowing for easy unscrew. However, once they are cross thread, the difficulty of re-attaching increases exponentially. I have been successful in "chasing the threads" by repeatedly screwing and unscrewing the almost useless UV filter to my circular polar.
b. The next step up the quality scale is aluminum body. It is more resistant to cross threading but has a tendency to stick when the filter is over tightened. Paint peeling and thread galling are also a problem
c. Brass is the best material for repeated use. The question is does my usage justify the added cost?

2. Circular vs. Plane polarizing, The Through The Lens (TTL) metering process requires circular polarization to get the meter to come close to doing its job adequately.

3. Quality and quantity of the light transmitted should be the most important factor.
a. Does the filter cause chromatic aberrations?
b. How much and at what wave lengths does it modify the histogram? A good one should just eliminate the glare.
c. How much does it reduce the f-stop?
d. Optical Glass Sandwich vs. Plastic?

4. Scratch, grime, etc. resistance: Since this little puppy will be riding around in the camera bag and pulled out in the wild out doors, this is important.

5. Vignetting: Sticking filters on the end of a lens will show up on the image sensor if it sticks out too far. The Thicker filter the bigger the problem. The wider the filter the less the problem "Yes, buy the largest filter and step up rings.


I purchased a B +W Kaesemann. I am happy with it.
:thumbup:

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Sep 15, 2013 00:10:11   #
Dave Johnson Loc: Grand Rapids, Michigan
 
Thank you all for the comments so far, I do appreciate it. I actually gave some thought to using an 82mm with adapter for my 77mm applications but I'm concerned that it might interfere with my lens hoods.

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Sep 15, 2013 06:51:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Ken Shilkun wrote:
What I have discovered:
1. Body material makes difference. Since not all shots require a Polarizing filter, they are attached and removed constantly. Since the fine threads and large diameter lead to cross threading by an excited photographer, A material that is tolerant of clumsy fingers is a must.

5. Vignetting: Sticking filters on the end of a lens will show up on the image sensor if it sticks out too far. The Thicker filter the bigger the problem. The wider the filter the less the problem "Yes, buy the largest filter and step up rings.


I purchased a B +W Kaesemann. I am happy with it.
:thumbup:
What I have discovered: br 1. Body material makes ... (show quote)

I used to hate all that "screwing around" with filters. Someone here recently mentioned the Xume ("zoom") magnetic filter holder. It's fantastic. One second on or off.

However, as you said, vignetting can be a problem. The picture below was shot at 28mm using a 28-300mm.

Using a larger filter with a lens hood would be a problem.

It was so windy that the ocean tilted - or maybe I tilted the camera.
It was so windy that the ocean tilted - or maybe I...

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Sep 15, 2013 08:33:14   #
deej
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I used to hate all that "screwing around" with filters. Someone here recently mentioned the Xume ("zoom") magnetic filter holder. It's fantastic. One second on or off.

However, as you said, vignetting can be a problem. The picture below was shot at 28mm using a 28-300mm.

Using a larger filter with a lens hood would be a problem.


Here is a couple of links:
This one with a video!!!
http://www.xumeadapters.com/

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_4?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=xume+adapter&sprefix=xume%2Celectronics%2C163&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Axume+adapter

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Sep 15, 2013 09:58:30   #
Hankwt Loc: kingsville ontario
 
that Zume looks very very interesting

as for the OP B+W all the way !!

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Sep 15, 2013 09:59:26   #
WAL
 
I consider rethinking the filters. If you are using it for landscape it is likely you will be in manual and not using auto focus. Which is the reason for using circular polarizing filters. Consider using a regular polarizing filter. I recently bought several at a local flea market (Tiffen,) for $5.
The filter market has become some thing like the audio market. Audiophiles spend hundreds for speaker wire that does nothing a lamp cord wouldn’t do.
How could a flat piece of glass, even one that is a sandwiched of polarizing plastic cost hundreds. It’s near the price of a complex kit zoom lens that is so much more complex there is no comparison.
When you hear a cameras sales person say, “You wouldn’t want to put a cheap peace of glass in front of a thousand dollar lens” you are being conned.
Ansel Adams used gelatin filters and he did OK.

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Sep 15, 2013 10:15:14   #
deej
 
Polarizers are an excellent choice for Landscape photography allowing for glare and contrast adjustments and Manual Focus will be used for most captures allowing focusing 1/3 of the way into the shot while using narrow apertures using DOF. Cheap filters abound and the one way to assure quality pictures are to compare or as you are doing ask competent fellow photog's which brands are best.

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Sep 15, 2013 10:45:31   #
Dave Johnson Loc: Grand Rapids, Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I used to hate all that "screwing around" with filters. Someone here recently mentioned the Xume ("zoom") magnetic filter holder. It's fantastic. One second on or off.

However, as you said, vignetting can be a problem. The picture below was shot at 28mm using a 28-300mm.

Using a larger filter with a lens hood would be a problem.


Hey Jerry, I believe you when you say the ocean tilted. I've seen that happen in some of my own pictures. :D:D:D

Thanks for the heads up on the Xume adapters. That looks like a good idea

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Sep 15, 2013 10:48:33   #
platscha
 
the best are singh ray filters, can't beat them

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Sep 15, 2013 11:16:27   #
Dave Johnson Loc: Grand Rapids, Michigan
 
WAL wrote:
I consider rethinking the filters. If you are using it for landscape it is likely you will be in manual and not using auto focus. Which is the reason for using circular polarizing filters. Consider using a regular polarizing filter. I recently bought several at a local flea market (Tiffen,) for $5.
The filter market has become some thing like the audio market. Audiophiles spend hundreds for speaker wire that does nothing a lamp cord wouldn’t do.
How could a flat piece of glass, even one that is a sandwiched of polarizing plastic cost hundreds. It’s near the price of a complex kit zoom lens that is so much more complex there is no comparison.
When you hear a cameras sales person say, “You wouldn’t want to put a cheap peace of glass in front of a thousand dollar lens” you are being conned.
Ansel Adams used gelatin filters and he did OK.
I consider rethinking the filters. If you are usin... (show quote)


Thank you for your comments Wal and believe me it's not like I want to throw a bunch of money at filters, but the reason I'm willing to spend more is that occasionally I'll be using it in inclement weather. As Ken mentioned earlier, build quality is important so I would like to have a brass frame with sealed optics. The higher end filters are also purported to clean faster and easier. That will be very useful out in the field.

Has anyone got the Hoya HD, it's getting some good press.

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