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Sep 20, 2013 21:33:30   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Jackinthebox wrote:
You, Conch are wild eyed ignorant. Put your money where your mouth is, write that check and send it to the IRS and after it clears show us a copy you arrogant bum.


Why should I write a check to the IRS ? I pay the taxes required of me every year and plenty of it.
I receive no money from the government other than SS and I paid for that.
Never been in a union, never been on welfare, never been on unemployment.
I got to my situation through the same capitalistic system that you claim to embrace.
Now Jack, get back in your box and try to figure out what you have done wrong and why you are such a failure.

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Sep 21, 2013 00:16:22   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
KW Conch wrote:
I did not wish to pay taxes to support the war in Iraq, but I had no choice. We don't have the option to pick and choose what we want our taxes to support.
If we did we would have fewer wars.
I don't have a problem helping people in need, particularly during a downturn in the economy. Many conservatives think that liberals want to throw money around unnecessarily. Not true. I don't believe in people making a career out of welfare. They are bums and moochers and I'm against paying them benefits as much as the staunchest conservative. In fact, I have reported people who I know to be cheating the system. I simply see a lack of basic human compassion in most diehard conservatives toward those who are truly in need.
I did not wish to pay taxes to support the war in ... (show quote)


"We don't have the option to pick and choose what we want our taxes to support."

Actually we do by the people we elect to represent us.

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Sep 21, 2013 04:08:00   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
KW Conch wrote:
I'm sorry that the capitalist system has not worked for you as it has for me.
It is a system of winners and losers. Looks like you ended up on the losing side.
You are just another loser wannabe.



Konk; I have been saying nasty things about you; you have PROVED me right, every time; I've called you a "braggart"; no one on this forum needs to take MY word for that! You have PROVED that for me, very nicely! I have called you arrogant; I think that's pretty obvious as well; I have called you a liberal fool; you admit to being a liberal, and in many people's minds, (including mine), ALL liberals are fools. So pretty much everything I've said, you have "demonstrated" quite well.

On the other hand, just like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you automatically "assume" that anyone you don't like, MUST be a "loser", simply because ALL arrogant people see themselves as being "superior". In spite of your constant attempts to pat yourself on the back and BRAG about your "wealth", your "portfolio", your wife's "advanced degrees".....the ONLY thing you really know about me, is that you can't stand me, so therefore, you "assume" that I MUST be a pauper, a loser, and anything else bad that you can think of. The problem with all of you "assumptions" Konk, is that they are ALL untrue! I haven't "bragged" about my "this & that", and the only thing that I've "proved" is, that I'm fully capable of putting YOU in your proper place, while you have proved NOTHING ! And I'm here now to tell you Konk, as usual, you're "full of crap" on ALL counts!

I actually have considerably more talents and "things going for me" than many of the people I know that are my age; but I'm not "into" bragging about my accomplishments like you are; I have already mentioned to you that I have a very good "quality of life", and once again, like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you dismiss anything I say, because "you're not interested".......which PROVES my point, very nicely; I have NEVER known of an arrogant person to be "interested" in anyone else's accomplishments.

About this point, if you're 1/4 as smart as you are attempting to convince yourself you are, sooner or later you're going to realize that all of this blind, "huffing & puffing" and "I don't cares", "you probably this & you probably that's" are beginning to make you look exactly like what I've been saying to you all along......that you're a pathetic, arrogant, miserable old fool. Now.....if you still insist that I'm such a "loser".......how about some evidence ? how about some proof ? For that matter, how about a "definition" ? What does one need to be, to be, or not to be......"a loser" ?

I know you're not a lawyer, Konk, but if you're 1/4 as smart as you think you are, you will know that when you make an accusation, "the burden of proof is on the accuser".......and NOT the other way around. I don't need to "prove" anything.....but YOU do! You're the one who insists that I'm practically indigent; you've proven all of my insults, Konk; I haven't proven ANY of yours.

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Sep 21, 2013 08:24:48   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
KW Conch wrote:
I did not wish to pay taxes to support the war in Iraq, but I had no choice. We don't have the option to pick and choose what we want our taxes to support.
If we did we would have fewer wars.
I don't have a problem helping people in need, particularly during a downturn in the economy. Many conservatives think that liberals want to throw money around unnecessarily. Not true. I don't believe in people making a career out of welfare. They are bums and moochers and I'm against paying them benefits as much as the staunchest conservative. In fact, I have reported people who I know to be cheating the system. I simply see a lack of basic human compassion in most diehard conservatives toward those who are truly in need.
I did not wish to pay taxes to support the war in ... (show quote)


Your point however only serves to validate theirs. They are against government social largess, you are against funding a war. Forget who is right. The other guy is always wrong. They were merely stating their preference as you are stating yours. Please do not now drag this out arguing which is more noble. Feeding the hungry or war. I truly doubt anyone here objects to feeding those who through no fault of their own are not able to feed their family. With equal conviction I truly believe no one here supports fighting a war which they believe is against a harmless enemy. Your problem here is you are trying to paint with a broom when you should be using a watercolor brush and it is turning out to be an awkward task for you. The fact remains our government is going overboard with welfare just as it is going overboard on war. We are being overtaxed. The argument that we are not taxed as heavily as the Swedes or the Aussies or the Germans etc. if true, does not make anyone feel better. 28 pages of pictures of your rowboat is enough. Can this thread, please.

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Sep 21, 2013 15:24:01   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Gitzo UH wrote:
Konk; I have been saying nasty things about you; you have PROVED me right, every time; I've called you a "braggart"; no one on this forum needs to take MY word for that! You have PROVED that for me, very nicely! I have called you arrogant; I think that's pretty obvious as well; I have called you a liberal fool; you admit to being a liberal, and in many people's minds, (including mine), ALL liberals are fools. So pretty much everything I've said, you have "demonstrated" quite well.

On the other hand, just like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you automatically "assume" that anyone you don't like, MUST be a "loser", simply because ALL arrogant people see themselves as being "superior". In spite of your constant attempts to pat yourself on the back and BRAG about your "wealth", your "portfolio", your wife's "advanced degrees".....the ONLY thing you really know about me, is that you can't stand me, so therefore, you "assume" that I MUST be a pauper, a loser, and anything else bad that you can think of. The problem with all of you "assumptions" Konk, is that they are ALL untrue! I haven't "bragged" about my "this & that", and the only thing that I've "proved" is, that I'm fully capable of putting YOU in your proper place, while you have proved NOTHING ! And I'm here now to tell you Konk, as usual, you're "full of crap" on ALL counts!

I actually have considerably more talents and "things going for me" than many of the people I know that are my age; but I'm not "into" bragging about my accomplishments like you are; I have already mentioned to you that I have a very good "quality of life", and once again, like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you dismiss anything I say, because "you're not interested".......which PROVES my point, very nicely; I have NEVER known of an arrogant person to be "interested" in anyone else's accomplishments.

About this point, if you're 1/4 as smart as you are attempting to convince yourself you are, sooner or later you're going to realize that all of this blind, "huffing & puffing" and "I don't cares", "you probably this & you probably that's" are beginning to make you look exactly like what I've been saying to you all along......that you're a pathetic, arrogant, miserable old fool. Now.....if you still insist that I'm such a "loser".......how about some evidence ? how about some proof ? For that matter, how about a "definition" ? What does one need to be, to be, or not to be......"a loser" ?

I know you're not a lawyer, Konk, but if you're 1/4 as smart as you think you are, you will know that when you make an accusation, "the burden of proof is on the accuser".......and NOT the other way around. I don't need to "prove" anything.....but YOU do! You're the one who insists that I'm practically indigent; you've proven all of my insults, Konk; I haven't proven ANY of yours.
Konk; I have been saying nasty things about you; ... (show quote)


Gitzo, this will be my last response. Feel free to have the last word if you wish to respond.
If you had taken the time to read all of this thread instead of just selected responses, you would have seen why I said what I did. Someone accused me of supporting Obama because I wanted "free stuff" and that I was probably a moocher and living off the government dole. I responded with the post that pissed you off so much. It was simply a response that indicated that I did not fit the stereotype of a lazy loafer with my hand out. It was not an attempt to be a braggart as you indicate.
That having been said, I'm outta here.

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Sep 21, 2013 15:29:13   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Croce wrote:
Your point however only serves to validate theirs. They are against government social largess, you are against funding a war. Forget who is right. The other guy is always wrong. They were merely stating their preference as you are stating yours. Please do not now drag this out arguing which is more noble. Feeding the hungry or war. I truly doubt anyone here objects to feeding those who through no fault of their own are not able to feed their family. With equal conviction I truly believe no one here supports fighting a war which they believe is against a harmless enemy. Your problem here is you are trying to paint with a broom when you should be using a watercolor brush and it is turning out to be an awkward task for you. The fact remains our government is going overboard with welfare just as it is going overboard on war. We are being overtaxed. The argument that we are not taxed as heavily as the Swedes or the Aussies or the Germans etc. if true, does not make anyone feel better. 28 pages of pictures of your rowboat is enough. Can this thread, please.
Your point however only serves to validate theirs.... (show quote)


I disagree, Croce. I did not support the war, but I paid my taxes without complaint because I knew that there was no way to separate my tax dollar from that of someone else.
Sorry if you don't like my boat. I won't comment on your avatar.

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Sep 21, 2013 20:24:34   #
Croce Loc: Earth
 
KW Conch wrote:
I disagree, Croce. I did not support the war, but I paid my taxes without complaint because I knew that there was no way to separate my tax dollar from that of someone else.
Sorry if you don't like my boat. I won't comment on your avatar.


Wrong Conch. You work too hard at trying to sound noble. You paid your taxes because you are intimidated by the consequences of not paying them. I am happy to hear however that you hold yourself in such high esteem even in the face of obvious disparagement.

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Sep 21, 2013 20:35:37   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
Gitzo UH wrote:
Konk; I have been saying nasty things about you; you have PROVED me right, every time; I've called you a "braggart"; no one on this forum needs to take MY word for that! You have PROVED that for me, very nicely! I have called you arrogant; I think that's pretty obvious as well; I have called you a liberal fool; you admit to being a liberal, and in many people's minds, (including mine), ALL liberals are fools. So pretty much everything I've said, you have "demonstrated" quite well.

On the other hand, just like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you automatically "assume" that anyone you don't like, MUST be a "loser", simply because ALL arrogant people see themselves as being "superior". In spite of your constant attempts to pat yourself on the back and BRAG about your "wealth", your "portfolio", your wife's "advanced degrees".....the ONLY thing you really know about me, is that you can't stand me, so therefore, you "assume" that I MUST be a pauper, a loser, and anything else bad that you can think of. The problem with all of you "assumptions" Konk, is that they are ALL untrue! I haven't "bragged" about my "this & that", and the only thing that I've "proved" is, that I'm fully capable of putting YOU in your proper place, while you have proved NOTHING ! And I'm here now to tell you Konk, as usual, you're "full of crap" on ALL counts!

I actually have considerably more talents and "things going for me" than many of the people I know that are my age; but I'm not "into" bragging about my accomplishments like you are; I have already mentioned to you that I have a very good "quality of life", and once again, like ALL arrogant, self-important people, you dismiss anything I say, because "you're not interested".......which PROVES my point, very nicely; I have NEVER known of an arrogant person to be "interested" in anyone else's accomplishments.

About this point, if you're 1/4 as smart as you are attempting to convince yourself you are, sooner or later you're going to realize that all of this blind, "huffing & puffing" and "I don't cares", "you probably this & you probably that's" are beginning to make you look exactly like what I've been saying to you all along......that you're a pathetic, arrogant, miserable old fool. Now.....if you still insist that I'm such a "loser".......how about some evidence ? how about some proof ? For that matter, how about a "definition" ? What does one need to be, to be, or not to be......"a loser" ?

I know you're not a lawyer, Konk, but if you're 1/4 as smart as you think you are, you will know that when you make an accusation, "the burden of proof is on the accuser".......and NOT the other way around. I don't need to "prove" anything.....but YOU do! You're the one who insists that I'm practically indigent; you've proven all of my insults, Konk; I haven't proven ANY of yours.
Konk; I have been saying nasty things about you; ... (show quote)


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Sep 21, 2013 21:13:25   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
KW Conch wrote:
Liberal communists. That's a new one.
I prefer the conservative communists myself. I guess I'm an old school rat on your neighbor for the party kind of guy.

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Sep 21, 2013 22:10:05   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Croce wrote:
Wrong Conch. You work too hard at trying to sound noble. You paid your taxes because you are intimidated by the consequences of not paying them. I am happy to hear however that you hold yourself in such high esteem even in the face of obvious disparagement.


Yep, I just consider the source.

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Sep 22, 2013 00:50:41   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
KW Conch wrote:
I disagree, Croce. I did not support the war, but I paid my taxes without complaint because I knew that there was no way to separate my tax dollar from that of someone else.
Sorry if you don't like my boat. I won't comment on your avatar.


You just finished squawking about my red fox on my avatar, Konk ! If you want to squawk about someone's avatar, squawk about that obama-nation that Frank-the-Skank uses for an avatar, or the graffiti from a train car that Cabooses uses for an avatar!

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Sep 22, 2013 17:38:54   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Gitzo UH wrote:
You just finished squawking about my red fox on my avatar, Konk ! If you want to squawk about someone's avatar, squawk about that obama-nation that Frank-the-Skank uses for an avatar, or the graffiti from a train car that Cabooses uses for an avatar!


I don't care about your rabid fox avatar. I'm sure the fox is a lot smarter than you.

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Sep 22, 2013 18:00:16   #
COI Jack Loc: Missouri
 
Can you catch rabies over the internet?

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