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Sep 10, 2013 11:34:18   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor does anyone else alive today. The point of raising this issue is that it is directly points to the fact that the new testament; what was included, what was excluded, was very much shaped by the politics and competing religions of the time. What later became the catholic church of Rome was not at all interested in allowing the ordinary person to have access to the 'gospels'. As such, how do we know that the story of Christ we have inherited was the true story? How do we know that Christianity wasn't hi-jacked very early on by those with an entirely different agenda. How does anyone today know if Jesus Christ was sympathetic to the ideology of the Essenes?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/ The ancient politics of 'spin' were just as active then as they are today. There was a melting pot of beliefs and ideologies in Rome at that time. I'm not saying this article, http://www.viewzone.com/mithras.html is a great work of scholastic merit and achievement but it does provide food for thought.
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor doe... (show quote)


There are other writings of that time that give insight to other things and bring up other questions. Some can not be authenticated as to who wrote them and were not included in the Bible by the people that put it together. They are very interesting.

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Sep 10, 2013 11:49:08   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor does anyone else alive today. The point of raising this issue is that it is directly points to the fact that the new testament; what was included, what was excluded, was very much shaped by the politics and competing religions of the time. What later became the catholic church of Rome was not at all interested in allowing the ordinary person to have access to the 'gospels'. As such, how do we know that the story of Christ we have inherited was the true story? How do we know that Christianity wasn't hi-jacked very early on by those with an entirely different agenda. How does anyone today know if Jesus Christ was sympathetic to the ideology of the Essenes?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/ The ancient politics of 'spin' were just as active then as they are today. There was a melting pot of beliefs and ideologies in Rome at that time. I'm not saying this article, http://www.viewzone.com/mithras.html is a great work of scholastic merit and achievement but it does provide food for thought.
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor doe... (show quote)


I have studied the Mithras legend because others have brought it up. There were 2 times that that religion was active. before Jesus and after .The stories from before Jesus do not mention the things that the article said was "borrowed from Christianity". That was only after Christianity was started. They said facts were borrowed from Christianity but it was the other way around. I do not rely on only one article to provide the facts because sometimes they get it wrong.
The Mithraic cult was practiced in the Roman Empire from about the 1st to 4th centuries AD after Jesus was on the earth.

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Sep 10, 2013 14:02:46   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Underwaterant wrote:
This is a photography forum.
NOT religion.
Please take it elsewhere.


This is the cit-chat section for ALL non-photography topics...So therefore he doesn't need to take it elsewhere. It works just fine here.

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Sep 10, 2013 14:03:13   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Harvey wrote:
Underwaterant - check the forum listing it reads "General Chit Chat"
Not General photos
Learn the difference


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 10, 2013 14:07:04   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
magicray wrote:
Penny, when are you and Croce going to get together?

:lol:


HAHAHAHAH! That is funny Magicray! Not sure why you are asking, but one day I really would like to meet Croce in person. I bet he is a fun individual with his unique sense of humor.

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Sep 10, 2013 14:40:42   #
DaDiCarr Loc: Margate, FL
 
Isn't it wonderful when you actually know, that was the power of God that manifested himself in you to save your life. I guess if you have been there at least once, them you know the power of God. To those that can't understand this, I pray for you never have to go through it to find out, but if you ever do, your life will be brand new. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 10, 2013 14:42:36   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
DaDiCarr wrote:
Isn't it wonderful when you actually know, that was the power of God that manifested himself in you to save your life. I guess if you have been there at least once, them you know the power of God. To those that can't understand this, I pray for you never have to go through it to find out, but if you ever do, your life will be brand new. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 10, 2013 15:24:56   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor does anyone else alive today. The point of raising this issue is that it is directly points to the fact that the new testament; what was included, what was excluded, was very much shaped by the politics and competing religions of the time. What later became the catholic church of Rome was not at all interested in allowing the ordinary person to have access to the 'gospels'. As such, how do we know that the story of Christ we have inherited was the true story? How do we know that Christianity wasn't hi-jacked very early on by those with an entirely different agenda. How does anyone today know if Jesus Christ was sympathetic to the ideology of the Essenes?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/ The ancient politics of 'spin' were just as active then as they are today. There was a melting pot of beliefs and ideologies in Rome at that time. I'm not saying this article, http://www.viewzone.com/mithras.html is a great work of scholastic merit and achievement but it does provide food for thought.
Was Jesus Christ married? I don't know and nor doe... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
The Mithraic Mysteries or Mysteries of Mithras was a mystery cult centered on the god Mithras, became popular among the military in the Roman Empire, from the 1st to 4th centuries AD.

A long series of analogies exists between Mithras and Jesus. Mithras was born on December 25 in a stable to a virgin, surrounded by shepherds who brought gifts. He was venerated on the day of the sun (Sunday). He bore a halo around his head. He celebrated a last supper with his faithful followers before returning to his father. He was said not to have died, but to have ascended to heaven from where he would return in the last days to raise the dead and judge them, sending the good to Paradise and the evil to Hell. He guaranteed his followers immortality after baptism.

Furthermore, the followers of Mithras believed in the immortality of the soul, the last judgment, and the resurrection of the dead at the end of the world. They celebrated the atoning death of a savior who had risen on a Sunday. They celebrated a ceremony corresponding to the Catholic Mass during which they consumed consecrated bread and wine in memory of the last supper of Mithras --and during the ceremony they used hymns, bells, candles, and holy water. Indeed, they shared with Christians a long series of other beliefs and ritual practices, to the point that they were practically indistinguishable from each other in the eyes of the pagans and also of many Christians.

http://www.viewzone.com/mithras.html

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Sep 22, 2013 02:10:48   #
johnr9999 Loc: Carlton, OR
 
JR1 wrote:
Thank god I am agnostic

;)

How do you know?

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