Charles Krauthammer is obviously a right wing partisan, but he sure got it right when he calls the present administration's position on Syria "amateur hour".
Regardless Obama's intention regarding the use of poison gas in Syria, his public presentation looks unprepared and not well thought out.
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Charles Krauthammer is obviously a right wing partisan, but he sure got it right when he calls the present administration's position on Syria "amateur hour".
Regardless Obama's intention regarding the use of poison gas in Syria, his public presentation looks unprepared and not well thought out.
Why doesn't O'bummer also give times, geo-marked locations and types of weapons to be used? He's giving most of that anyhow.
Sarge69
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Charles Krauthammer is obviously a right wing partisan, but he sure got it right when he calls the present administration's position on Syria "amateur hour".
Regardless Obama's intention regarding the use of poison gas in Syria, his public presentation looks unprepared and not well thought out.
What options did Krauthammer present?
I would hope any president would think very carefully and methodically about bringing us into another war - especially when we are already bogged down in other countries messes, the opposing country is being supported by another superpower nation, and while our economy is still recovering.
What's your option?
Ambrose wrote:
What options did Krauthammer present?
I would hope any president would think very carefully and methodically about bringing us into another war - especially when we are already bogged down in other countries messes, the opposing country is being supported by another superpower nation, and while our economy is still recovering.
What's your option?
Krauthammer basically said that Obama should have gone to congress with the facts, had the debate and then either told the world that we are going to do "x" or we are not going to do "x". As it is, Obama said that if Assad used gas it would be crossing a red line, at least implying that we would take action against them. Maybe he meant that we would write a nasty note to Assad's mother, I don't know.
As it is, Obama is sending mixed and confusing messages to the rest of the world, and in doing so looking like it's amateur hour at the White House.
Ambrose wrote:
What options did Krauthammer present?
I would hope any president would think very carefully and methodically about bringing us into another war - especially when we are already bogged down in other countries messes, the opposing country is being supported by another superpower nation, and while our economy is still recovering.
What's your option?
My option would be to decide clearly and state to the world that we consider ourselves to be the world's policemen or that we don't. Once we did that, deciding on which specific actions to follow would be easy.
Personally, I don't think we should be the world's policemen.
Syria is no threat to the United States. Syrians are engaged in their civil war. The more they kill each other, the less of them is available to kill us.
What's been going on in the Middle East has been going on for thousands of years. Let them continue killing each other. It is the way of the Muslin world, not the Muslin religion, but the Muslin people. If they won't police themselves, then let them destroy themselves.
The U S Constitution applies to US citizens. We are not the world's policeman.
The US Constitution covers Alaska, Hawaii and the contiguous 48 states between the US Canadian border, the Rio Grande, the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, Guam, Porto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands.
Syria is not the same as WWI, WWII, the Monroe Doctrine or Cuba. Let the UN deal with it. The President should not commit our military without the backing of all of the following conditions;
1. the American people and
2. the Congress and
3. other Arab nations' military and
4. other major allies' military and
5. a direct physical threat to these United States or our allies
Syria is no threat to us. Syrians are engaged in their civil war which is none of our business.
To those of us who want to go to war with Syria, you are free to leave this country and join the Syrian up-risers.
If we go to war, oil prices, oil related products and food prices will rise affecting U S citizens' standard of living, and more American lives killed needlessly.
Don't waste our military on trying to change the hearts of others. The military is to defend the U S by going to war, kicking ass and getting out, not a long protracted engagement.
No more Korea, no more Viet Nam, no more Iraq, no more Afghanistan like wars.
If we don't learned from the past, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
HAVEN'T WE LEARNED OUR LESSONS YET?
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Charles Krauthammer is obviously a right wing partisan, but he sure got it right when he calls the present administration's position on Syria "amateur hour".
Regardless Obama's intention regarding the use of poison gas in Syria, his public presentation looks unprepared and not well thought out.
Obama put his foot in his mouth when he said if Syria used chemical weapons on their own people, they will pay the conseqences...Now, he doesn't know what to do. Yes, this is amateur hour at it's finest.
BboH
Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
Obama is quite cleverly devious. Whatever happens, it is not his fault/responsibility
He drew the line, he made the decision to take action, now he is taking it to congress.
If congress agrees and all goes good - he takes credit because it was his idea and congress went along.
If all goes bad, then congress should have for seen and said no, he relied on the wisdom of the congress and the American people - not his fault it went bad.
I still say it was the rebels that usually guess.
Pentony wrote:
Syria is no threat to the United States. Syrians are engaged in their civil war. The more they kill each other, the less of them is available to kill us.
What's been going on in the Middle East has been going on for thousands of years. Let them continue killing each other. It is the way of the Muslin world, not the Muslin religion, but the Muslin people. If they won't police themselves, then let them destroy themselves.
The U S Constitution applies to US citizens. We are not the world's policeman.
The US Constitution covers Alaska, Hawaii and the contiguous 48 states between the US Canadian border, the Rio Grande, the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, Guam, Porto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands.
Syria is not the same as WWI, WWII, the Monroe Doctrine or Cuba. Let the UN deal with it. The President should not commit our military without the backing of all of the following conditions;
1. the American people and
2. the Congress and
3. other Arab nations' military and
4. other major allies' military and
5. a direct physical threat to these United States or our allies
Syria is no threat to us. Syrians are engaged in their civil war which is none of our business.
To those of us who want to go to war with Syria, you are free to leave this country and join the Syrian up-risers.
If we go to war, oil prices, oil related products and food prices will rise affecting U S citizens' standard of living, and more American lives killed needlessly.
Don't waste our military on trying to change the hearts of others. The military is to defend the U S by going to war, kicking ass and getting out, not a long protracted engagement.
No more Korea, no more Viet Nam, no more Iraq, no more Afghanistan like wars.
If we don't learned from the past, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
HAVEN'T WE LEARNED OUR LESSONS YET?
Syria is no threat to the United States. Syrians ... (
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You would hope so, wouldn't you.
GeneB
Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
BboH wrote:
Obama is quite cleverly devious. Whatever happens, it is not his fault/responsibility
He drew the line, he made the decision to take action, now he is taking it to congress.
If congress agrees and all goes good - he takes credit because it was his idea and congress went along.
If all goes bad, then congress should have for seen and said no, he relied on the wisdom of the congress and the American people - not his fault it went bad.
Have you seen or heard John Kerry talking about this issue. I believe that he is being set up as a scapegoat for anything that goes wrong in our meddling in the affairs of Syria. And yes Obama is looking like the amateur that he is.
Ambrose wrote:
What options did Krauthammer present?
I would hope any president would think very carefully and methodically about bringing us into another war - especially when we are already bogged down in other countries messes, the opposing country is being supported by another superpower nation, and while our economy is still recovering.
What's your option?
How about talking to Allah? The Ft. Hood killer?
How Alec Baldwin, or George Clooney, Harvey Weinstein?
How about Lady Gaga?
:hunf:
Obama is going in front of Congress for one reason, to take the blame off of him. If Congress gives to go-ahead then it is Congress fault if anything goes wrong. If Congress says no then Obama is off the hook and he can tell the world that Congress won't let him.
Bangee5 wrote:
Obama is going in front of Congress for one reason, to take the blame off of him. If Congress gives to go-ahead then it is Congress fault if anything goes wrong. If Congress says no then Obama is off the hook and he can tell the world that Congress won't let him.
I agree this is Obama's plan. An amateur leader but an excellent politician. When will enough liberals wake up so we can impeach him. At least Joe would be no worse.
Ambrose wrote:
What options did Krauthammer present?
I would hope any president would think very carefully and methodically about bringing us into another war - especially when we are already bogged down in other countries messes, the opposing country is being supported by another superpower nation, and while our economy is still recovering.
What's your option?
I would put a green line out, and if that was crossed, there is always a yellow one and so on and on.
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