Gitzo Loc: Indiana

Looks like the rats are finally waking up and jumping off the ship !


Writing a recent column for The Guardian, journalism professor and prominent Democrat Jeff Jarvis took President Barack Obama to task for betraying those who voted for him with unConstitutional policies.

Jarvis’s column begins:
What are you thinking, Mr President?
Is this really the legacy you want for yourself: the chief executive who trampled rights, destroyed privacy, heightened secrecy, ruined trust, and worst of all, did not defend but instead detoured around so many of the fundamental principles on which this country is founded?
And I voted for you. I’ll confess you were a second choice. I supported Hillary Clinton first. I said at the time that your rhetoric about change was empty and that I feared you would be another Jimmy Carter: aggressively ineffectual.
Never did I imagine that you would instead become another Richard Nixon: imperial, secretive, vindictive, untrustworthy, inexplicable.

The professor, whose bio flaunts an impressive list of media career accomplishments, goes on to express his disdain for the President’s policies from the perspective of 9/11 survivor, journalist, American citizen, Internet user and Democrat.

He writes:
I do care about security. I survived the attack on the World Trade Center and I believe 9/11 was allowed to occur through a failure of intelligence. I thank TSA agents for searching me: applause for security theater. I defend government’s necessary secrets…
… As a journalist, I am frightened by your vengeful attacks on whistleblowers – Manning, Assange, Snowden, and the rest – and the impact in turn on journalism and its tasks of keeping a watchful eye on you and helping to assure an informed citizenry.

As a citizen, I am disgusted by the systematic evasion of oversight you have supported through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) courts; by the use of ports as lawless zones where your agents can harass anyone; by your failure on your promise to close Guantánamo, and this list could go on.

As an American often abroad, I am embarrassed by the damage you have caused to our reputation and to others’ trust in us. I find myself apologizing for what you are doing to citizens of other nations, dismissing the idea that they have rights to privacy because they are “foreign”.

As an internet user, I am most fearful of the impact of your wanton destruction of privacy and the resulting collapse of trust in the net and what that will do to the freedom we have enjoyed in it as well as the business and jobs that are being built atop it.

And as a Democrat, I worry that you are losing us the next election, handing an issue to the Republicans that should have been ours: protecting the rights of citizens against the overreach of the security state.

The author goes on to suggest a num
ber of ways that the President could go about regaining the trust of some of his former supporters. Read the full piece here.

Jarvis is one of many Democrats and American liberals who have lost faith in President Obama’s promise of “hope” and “change” in America under his Administration.

In a recent interview with Democracy Now, influential polemicist and MIT professor Noam Chomsky said Sarah Palin was right about Barack Obama: There was no substance to his Presidential campaign.

“I don’t usually admire Sarah Palin, but when she was making fun of this ‘hopey changey stuff,’ she was right; there was nothing there,” Chomsky said. “And it was understood by the people who run the political system, and so it’s no great secret that the US electoral system is mainly a public relations extravaganza… it’s sort of a marketing affair.”

Culture critic, author and self-proclaimed eternal optimist for old school liberalism Camille Paglia penned a recent column similar in tone to Jarvis’s for Salon. In her piece she took Obama and Hillary Clinton to task for the Benghazi fiasco.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

Funny thing. I went to the Democracy Now website and did a search for Noah Chomsky, and nothing came up. So I have to believe that the rest of this post is as much bullshit as that part.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

You went to the wrong web site;

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/22/noam-chomsky-agrees-with-sarah-palin-about-barack-obama/

Really man, you need to stay away from those liberal web sites.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

Stay away from liberal websites? The OP cited the site as a source. I prefer not to make shit up, but the OP doesn't seem to have that same standard.

So you cite a right wing CANADIAN news rag that makes up stuff. Noah Chomsky never said those things to Democracy Now. Yet another example of simple-minded conservatives believing everything they read in right wing newsrags. Way to go.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Are you saying that Noah Chomsky never said those things At all, even in the video? Did you watch the video. Come on tschmath, don't be so closed minded.

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

What video? The link posted was to a right wing Canadian site and there was no video. What are you talking about?

donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl

Does anybody think that Hillery would or can be any better for the country ???

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

His first name is Noam, not Noah. When you search for Noam Chomsky on Democracy Now there are 240 results.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

I'll bet ole sarg does :thumbup:

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/chomsky-palin-was-right-about-obamas-hopey-changey-gimmick/

It appears that Noam Chomsky did say those things. I'm a bit surprised that you aren't more of a Chomsky follower as he is the more intellectual and coherent spokesman for Obama's ideology.

What he was pointing out in that interview reinforces things that Chomsky has said over the past five years of Obama's presidency. Chomsky agrees with Obama (in fact, it should be stated the other way - Obama agrees with Chomsky). Chomsky just doesn't believe that Obama has the tools necessary to actually accomplish what he says he will accomplish.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Whether Hillary will or will not become the next President is hard to predict. I will say that she's more of a centrist than Obama and certainly more of a hawk in foreign policy.
If she runs, yes, she will win.
Why? Because the Republican Party still doesn't get it.
You cannot alienate African Americans and Latinos and win a national election. You can not have a race to see who is most extreme in your party and win an election. You cannot in this day and age etch a sketch everything you said in Iowa and win New York.
If the GOP is to have any chance of winning, they need to seriously consider Gov. Christie of NJ. Believe it or not, he's also a right wing conservative, but he understands politics and the need to work with the Democrats that seems to escape the grand old party.
Sorry Don, but get ready for a woman in the white house.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

I agree with your overall analysis of Republican chances of winning with the present electorate. Chris Christie, however, is no more a right wing conservative than the man in the moon.

He is a political opportunist and will choose positions that make him popular with the electorate. This may help him in national polls but does not make him right wing or conservative.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

http://www.democracynow.org/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=noam+chomsky&commit=Search

240 results

F16 Club

donrent; The best the citizenry could do next election is call Ron Paul or other like him, if not who ever from Democrat or Republican get power will be a Tirany and desaster.


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Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

This video.

http://o.dailycaller.com/thedailycaller/#!/entry/chomsky-palin-was-right-about-obamas-hopeychangey-gimmick,52151768da27f5d9d00f2b30/1

Or here:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8bmxzsGcE