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Aug 19, 2013 08:17:37   #
Bill MN Loc: Western MN
 
silver wrote:
Nikon has a lens, the 17-35 2.8. This is an older lens, maybe 10 years old design but Nikon is still making this lens. This is an unusually good lens and is kind of an unknown gem. The resolution capability of this lens is great and the quality of this lens in un surpassable. This is an expensive lens, about $1800.00 new but this lens is worth every penny. People dont know about this, why I dont know but anybody that knows about Nikon lenses will say the same thing about this lens, Its a great lens. Here is the Photozone review of this lens.http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/672-nikkorafs173528ff Ken Rockwell also thinks very highly of this lens. Here is Ken Rockwells review of the 17-35 2.8 lens and he calls this lens spectacular.http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1735.htm
Nikon has a lens, the 17-35 2.8. This is an older ... (show quote)
Thanks but do you think I need a lens that good to be used in a cemetery? No one is going to pop up and smile at me anyway, at least I hope not. ;) :D

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Aug 19, 2013 08:35:49   #
Bill MN Loc: Western MN
 
MtnMan wrote:
I have forgotten several times now to post an alternative approach to what you want to do. Using whatever lens you have and panning to make panoramas might suit your needs better.

As noted by some extreme wide angle lenses lead to distortion. While some cameras and post processing programs have the ability to deal somewhat with that you might end up spending more time than making panoramas.

I find Photoshop and Photoshop Elements equal in their ability to quite simply make panoramas. You can then zoom in for great detail.

One trick I learned from Scott Kelby. When taking panoramas after you take last shot retake it holding in front of your lens (in focus) a number of fingers corresponding to how many shots you want to use to make the panorama. When you look through your files you then know where to start and how many shots to use.
I have forgotten several times now to post an alte... (show quote)
Panorama would not work. Those pictures are only used for a reference point. In a small cemetery probably need only 4 area pictures. Tripod needs to be set so most of the family monument stones show to see the name. A tall ladder may work. Thanks anyway.

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Aug 19, 2013 09:08:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
If cost is an issue, look at the older Tamron SP 20-40 F2.7-3.5 asphereical for about $200 used on ebay.

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Aug 19, 2013 12:21:41   #
Bill MN Loc: Western MN
 
imagemeister wrote:
If cost is an issue, look at the older Tamron SP 20-40 F2.7-3.5 asphereical for about $200 used on ebay.
Cost is not that big of an issue. Wider angle is what I need.

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Aug 20, 2013 10:11:17   #
Bugfan Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
First of all if you're going to an FX sensor, avoid DX lenses. They will work of course but your images are cropped and your resolution is lower too. Stick to FX lenses.

If you're insistent on an extreme wide angle, I can highly recommend the F2.8 14mm-24mm. The lens is a bit pricey but the quality is awesome. I've used it frequently over the past five or six years now. The only problem is that you can't use a filter but if you're doing landscapes that shouldn't be an issue. It's certainly never been an issue for me.

Whatever lens you do eventually get there is a rule you should know about too. No matter how wide your wide angle lens is, you will encounter subjects that are just a bit wider and these occur only in places where you can't step back further to capture them in full. That rule used to drive me crazy. It doesn't any more.

Until you decide what wide angle you want, learn how to do panoramas. If you shoot a series of images with a sharp quality lens and stitch them together in the computer using photoshop, you'll be able to still read the inscriptions when you zoom in and at the same time you'll have all the wide angle views you could ever want.

When you're doing horizontal panoramas hold the camera vertically, and when you're doing vertical panoramas hold the camera horizontally. Overlap your images 40%-60%.

I hope this helps a little. Good Luck!

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Aug 20, 2013 10:20:34   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Bugfan wrote:
First of all if you're going to an FX sensor, avoid DX lenses. They will work of course but your images are cropped and your resolution is lower too. Stick to FX lenses.



Ah, the voice of someone who hasn't checked before making pronouncements.

Read my posts above about the Nikon 10-24. It works fine on my D800 (FX) in full FX mode as long as I use it 18-24 mm. Below 18 mm in FX mode you get growing vignette, which in some instance may be fine and you aren't likely to need it below that anyway: most FX wide angles only go to 17 anyway.

In 1.2 crop and 8x10 mode there is no vignetting down to 15mm.

And of course in DX mode no vignetting over the full range.

Up to you what you want to use and a fine lens.

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Aug 20, 2013 10:41:24   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MtnMan wrote:
Ah, the voice of someone who hasn't checked before making pronouncements.

Read my posts above about the Nikon 10-24. It works fine on my D800 (FX) in full FX mode as long as I use it 18-24 mm. Below 18 mm in FX mode you get growing vignette, which in some instance may be fine and you aren't likely to need it below that anyway: most FX wide angles only go to 17 anyway.

In 1.2 crop and 8x10 mode there is no vignetting down to 15mm.

And of course in DX mode no vignetting over the full range.

Up to you what you want to use and a fine lens.
Ah, the voice of someone who hasn't checked before... (show quote)


It does work..
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I've used the 17-55 DX in a pinch. (Grabbed the wrong lens)
I think vignetting started at about 24mm.

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Aug 20, 2013 10:57:03   #
Bill MN Loc: Western MN
 
MtnMan wrote:
Ah, the voice of someone who hasn't checked before making pronouncements.

Read my posts above about the Nikon 10-24. It works fine on my D800 (FX) in full FX mode as long as I use it 18-24 mm. Below 18 mm in FX mode you get growing vignette, which in some instance may be fine and you aren't likely to need it below that anyway: most FX wide angles only go to 17 anyway.

In 1.2 crop and 8x10 mode there is no vignetting down to 15mm.

And of course in DX mode no vignetting over the full range.

Up to you what you want to use and a fine lens.
Ah, the voice of someone who hasn't checked before... (show quote)
I decided to put it on my D90 DX and leave it there. I don't need that good of pictures taken in cemeteries. It's only for my own use. If someone decides to destroy tombstone I have a record of where they were. People are using 4 wheel drives hooked to tombstones just to see how much they will pull. Some will do anything for entertainment.

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