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Aug 14, 2013 15:43:58   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
by; John Hawkins

1) A "gun free zone" won’t keep bad people with guns away: The basic problem with a "gun free zone” is that anyone you can't trust with a gun will bring it in anyway while it will cause the people you'd want armed in a dangerous situation to leave their weapons behind. If this concept actually worked, we'd just train all of our soldiers in Jiu-jitsu and then we'd declare everywhere we sent them to be a "gun free zone." Admittedly, Mortal Kombat: Afghanistan sounds like it would be an amazing movie, but someone needs to inform Democrats that the world doesn't really work this way.

2) Criminals and lunatics don't obey gun laws: The belief that someone who's planning to go on a killing spree is going to turn in a gun because it's made illegal is almost as nuts as going on the killing spree. Yet, the gun grabbers in the Democrat Party operate on the assumption that nut jobs like Adam Lanza or a gangbanger who sells crack for a living is going to get rid of a high-capacity magazine if Congress says he can't have it. That's like a prohibitionist who gets upset about alcoholism and deals with the problem by demanding that all the people without drinking problems have to be kept away from booze.

3) We already have somewhere between 200-300 million guns in this country: Adding to the last point, ever heard this old joke?

A drunk loses the keys to his house and is looking for them under a lamppost. A policeman comes over and asks what he’s doing.
“I’m looking for my keys” he says. “I lost them over there”.

The policeman looks puzzled. “Then why are you looking for them all the way over here?”

“Because the light is so much better”.

If there were no already existing guns in America, gun control could conceivably help keep weaponry out of the hands of criminals and mass murderers. However, in a nation that's already armed to the teeth, the next Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner, Tookie Williams or Mumia Abu-Jamal has already got his gun and new laws will only disarm law abiding Americans.

4) Gun owners aren't required to explain a "need" for our Second Amendment rights: Why do gun owners "need" their guns? The same reason that Rosa Parks "needed" her seat at the front of the bus. In other words, it's our constitutional right; so kiss off! If you need more of an explanation than that, why does California "need" to have its votes counted in the next presidential election? Why do we "need" so many liberal newspapers? Why not close a few? Why do movie stars "need" to make so much money for their films? Why don't we confiscate it? What was it that Ann Coulter said?

"Free people are not in the habit of providing reasons why they 'need' something simply because the government wants to ban it. That’s true of anything — but especially something the government is constitutionally prohibited from banning, like guns."

5) You're not fooling us: Liberals like to think they're smarter than everyone else, but they're as transparent as glass to anyone who's paying attention. That's why gun sales have blown up like a can of shaving cream in a microwave. If Barack Obama, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrat gun grabbers in Congress could get away with it, they would ban and confiscate every gun in America tomorrow -- and people know it. Anything short of, "Nobody is allowed to own a firearm except the government," is unacceptable to them and that's why they always seem so ghoulishly pleased after tragedies like the Gabrielle Giffords shooting or the Newtown massacre. Everybody else is thinking of the victims, while they're twirling their mustaches Snidely-Whiplash-style and repeating, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste," to each other.

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Aug 14, 2013 16:40:06   #
Bubu Loc: Out of this solar system
 
Why not let anyone use MJ freely? Everyone has the right to some fun once in a while.

Stupid right? That is your logic.

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Aug 14, 2013 17:00:28   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Bubu wrote:
Why not let anyone use MJ freely? Everyone has the right to some fun once in a while.

Stupid right? That is your logic.


Huh??????

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Aug 14, 2013 17:08:07   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Jakebrake wrote:
by; John Hawkins

1) A "gun free zone" won’t keep bad people with guns away: The basic problem with a "gun free zone” is that anyone you can't trust with a gun will bring it in anyway while it will cause the people you'd want armed in a dangerous situation to leave their weapons behind. If this concept actually worked, we'd just train all of our soldiers in Jiu-jitsu and then we'd declare everywhere we sent them to be a "gun free zone." Admittedly, Mortal Kombat: Afghanistan sounds like it would be an amazing movie, but someone needs to inform Democrats that the world doesn't really work this way.

2) Criminals and lunatics don't obey gun laws: The belief that someone who's planning to go on a killing spree is going to turn in a gun because it's made illegal is almost as nuts as going on the killing spree. Yet, the gun grabbers in the Democrat Party operate on the assumption that nut jobs like Adam Lanza or a gangbanger who sells crack for a living is going to get rid of a high-capacity magazine if Congress says he can't have it. That's like a prohibitionist who gets upset about alcoholism and deals with the problem by demanding that all the people without drinking problems have to be kept away from booze.

3) We already have somewhere between 200-300 million guns in this country: Adding to the last point, ever heard this old joke?

A drunk loses the keys to his house and is looking for them under a lamppost. A policeman comes over and asks what he’s doing.
“I’m looking for my keys” he says. “I lost them over there”.

The policeman looks puzzled. “Then why are you looking for them all the way over here?”

“Because the light is so much better”.

If there were no already existing guns in America, gun control could conceivably help keep weaponry out of the hands of criminals and mass murderers. However, in a nation that's already armed to the teeth, the next Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner, Tookie Williams or Mumia Abu-Jamal has already got his gun and new laws will only disarm law abiding Americans.

4) Gun owners aren't required to explain a "need" for our Second Amendment rights: Why do gun owners "need" their guns? The same reason that Rosa Parks "needed" her seat at the front of the bus. In other words, it's our constitutional right; so kiss off! If you need more of an explanation than that, why does California "need" to have its votes counted in the next presidential election? Why do we "need" so many liberal newspapers? Why not close a few? Why do movie stars "need" to make so much money for their films? Why don't we confiscate it? What was it that Ann Coulter said?

"Free people are not in the habit of providing reasons why they 'need' something simply because the government wants to ban it. That’s true of anything — but especially something the government is constitutionally prohibited from banning, like guns."

5) You're not fooling us: Liberals like to think they're smarter than everyone else, but they're as transparent as glass to anyone who's paying attention. That's why gun sales have blown up like a can of shaving cream in a microwave. If Barack Obama, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrat gun grabbers in Congress could get away with it, they would ban and confiscate every gun in America tomorrow -- and people know it. Anything short of, "Nobody is allowed to own a firearm except the government," is unacceptable to them and that's why they always seem so ghoulishly pleased after tragedies like the Gabrielle Giffords shooting or the Newtown massacre. Everybody else is thinking of the victims, while they're twirling their mustaches Snidely-Whiplash-style and repeating, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste," to each other.
by; John Hawkins br br 1) A "gun free zone&... (show quote)


What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.

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Aug 14, 2013 17:32:09   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
RixPix wrote:
What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.


What I find ever more odd is that you can make statements of certainty.

There are members of Congress that have states emphatically that they DO want to outlaw the private ownership of all firearms.

Diane Feinstein is just one of them.

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Aug 14, 2013 20:04:26   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
RixPix wrote:
What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.


What you should feel paranoia about is your rights being taking away from you rather you own a gun or not. Why can't you see that?

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Aug 14, 2013 22:20:55   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Samuraiz wrote:
What I find ever more odd is that you can make statements of certainty.

There are members of Congress that have states emphatically that they DO want to outlaw the private ownership of all firearms.

Diane Feinstein is just one of them.


Oh good grief! There you go, confusing RixPix with logic again! :D

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Aug 14, 2013 22:22:43   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
RixPix wrote:
What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.


Maybe you need to get together with your good buddy Bloomberg and discuss the issue. Seems to me, you two are not of like minds!

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Aug 14, 2013 22:24:19   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
RixPix wrote:
What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.


Nothing odd about it really. Refer to #5 in my OP, and that should explain it all to you. (Hopefully, but seriously I don't hold out that hope for you).

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Aug 15, 2013 02:33:09   #
rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona
 
RixPix wrote:
What I find odd is your need to express your paranoia. Nobody wants to take your guns. They do want to restrict the guns available for use just like Ronald Reagan.


What I find odd is someone making such a patently specious statement and expecting gun rights proponents to believe it because you invoked the name Ronald Reagan!

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Aug 15, 2013 03:32:55   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
rcirr wrote:
What I find odd is someone making such a patently specious statement and expecting gun rights proponents to believe it because you invoked the name Ronald Reagan!


You are too kind. His statement is a lie or he is simply a useful idiot. In either case he should be ignored as he is a troll.

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Aug 15, 2013 06:16:49   #
Bruno2013 Loc: Fort Myers, Florida
 
Have you ever read the constitution? Art 2 establishes gun ownership to permit the establishment of a militia. And remember the guns then were single shot muskets. Second, controlling gun ownership will go far to decrease suicides and accidental shootings. The fact that so many people having access to guns use them to commit suicide suggest current mental health screening before gun purchases is grossly inadequate

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Aug 15, 2013 06:32:12   #
Skellum0
 
Why do these people look at what actually happens in countries with gun control. The criminals do stop carrying in almost all situations, the exceptions are almost all criminal on criminal or the occasional serious crime such as a bank robbery.

This is not speculation, it has happened in every country with effective gun control, whether or not the gun ownership is prohibited. Murders, suicides, mass killings, and accidental shootings all go down very significantly and those countries have become safer places to live.

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Aug 15, 2013 07:31:16   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Really? Shouldn't someone have the right to take their own life? In reality, suicides by firearm are down - suicides by overdose with prescription drugs are up, since they are more readily available. And who wouldn't rather die peacefully in their sleep as opposed to blowing their brains all over the wall, unless they were really mad and wanted to make a statement? But the bottom line - nationally our suicide rate has gone down steadily since the introduction of good antidepressant medications. So this is a silly argument for gum control.

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Aug 15, 2013 07:49:39   #
Bruno2013 Loc: Fort Myers, Florida
 
SB: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=0. Oh, my mistake. You were writing about gum control

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