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Aug 14, 2013 16:27:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Wall-E wrote:
Where did THAT come from?

Montana :D

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Aug 14, 2013 17:24:34   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
vickiel wrote:
What is the advantage of cropping in camera as opposed to waiting for the post edit?????


If you want to send the image directly from camera to printer (via usb connection or memory card transfer), bypassing the computer and its editing software. In such situation, you will have to do all editing - including cropping - in the camera.

Although you may never intend to work this way, it is good to know you could... should ever the computer become unavailable but you needed prints from your photos.

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Aug 14, 2013 20:22:51   #
vickiel Loc: alamo california
 
I apologize for not making my question clear. I meant using the cameras ability to crop while still on the memory card.

Many thanks for all your thoughtful replies.

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Aug 14, 2013 22:10:27   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Cropping the on-card photo file is best done in the comfort of your own home on a larger screen. Better control, better view, available food in the fridge, and so on.

Unless, of course, you have young children - in that case, bring a laptop with you while shooting.

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Aug 14, 2013 23:32:17   #
GWMT Loc: Montana
 
http://www.nycaviation.com/2011/05/how-to-choose-a-camera-sensors-and-megapixels/#.UgwxUtL2Ymk
This is what I was thinging about, or trying to get across. Tough group.

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Aug 15, 2013 00:00:12   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
GWMT wrote:
I find that I tend to crop too tight in camera not paying attention to the edges and cut things off or out. Pull back and crop in PP, higher percentage of getting all of what you want. Crop sensors concentrate most the pixels towards the center, so not a lot of lost info in PP crop.


This is what is defined as "Boarder Patrol" checking around the perimeter of you viewfinder to see that you have - every thing in the frame you want. - and nothing in the viewfinder you don't want - proper composition requires this procedure.

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Aug 15, 2013 02:57:21   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
vickiel wrote:
I apologize for not making my question clear. I meant using the cameras ability to crop while still on the memory card.

Many thanks for all your thoughtful replies.


I think really, you are talking more about composition, than cropping.

Compose the best image in your viewfinder, if it needs cropping, take another shot by using your feet to get closer.
Then, when back home, in the comfort and space of your 'darkroom' do a final edit.
Cheers

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Aug 15, 2013 06:17:18   #
Severums Loc: London, England
 
My D800 has various in-camera cropping ratios (DX 1.5, 1.2 & 5:4 aspect ratio).

Apart from the zoom aspect, it reduces the MP count (smaller file size & faster burst frame rate) and uses the central part (and normally the sharpest) part of the attached lens.

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Aug 15, 2013 06:26:05   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
vickiel wrote:
What is the advantage of cropping in camera as opposed to waiting for the post edit?????


Are you talking about crop mode in camera?

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Aug 15, 2013 07:07:37   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
With the Canon 5D Mark II I sometimes "over-shoot" = meaning that I let a little room for a little (not much) cropping later in post-edit. Usually I do get the shot I want totally in the camera to the best exposure that I can with the camera(s) I am working with.
NIK Software's "D-fine" works wonders on noise.
And I do manual focus if and when I have the time to do so. I too shoot in manual most of the time.

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Aug 15, 2013 07:41:54   #
photophool Loc: Grosse Pointe Park, MI
 
vickiel wrote:
What is the advantage of cropping in camera as opposed to waiting for the post edit?????


When I shoot, I'm never sure what size print I'll want/need. I generally allow a bit of extra space on all four sides, just in case. There have been times when I frame exactly in camera, and find I can't make a 5X7 without cropping some important detail I want in the finished print, e.g. heads, feet, etc. My D70S won't allow cropping on the memory card, but I doubt I'd use that feature if I had it. I've heard that it's better to always shoot horizontal, as it's easier to crop to vertical than vice versa. I don't know if I agree with that statement.

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Aug 15, 2013 08:01:12   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Joe F.N. wrote:
Mainly detail Vickie. If you take the trouble to do cropping in camera, you will retain all the detail your camera and lens is capable of. When cropped during editing ,a lot of detail is lost in the final choice and eaten up by the amount around the edges you throw away.


:thumbup:

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Aug 15, 2013 08:32:07   #
The Villages Loc: The Villages, Florida
 
vickiel wrote:
What is the advantage of cropping in camera as opposed to waiting for the post edit?????


I've read through the responses to date, and am still not clear on the answer. Replies seem to go off in different directions.

Again, as orginally asked, if one crops "in camera" vs. cropping in"post", which would produce a better print...or would they be equal in quality [without any super duber post processsing software].

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Aug 15, 2013 08:32:59   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Hey, Gang,
we're talkin' digital here, not film! Shoot a bunch of cost-free images with different crops using the full frame. Then back off a bit or use a wider angle with the subject centered to permit PP cropping options you may not have considered at the time you were making your cropped-in-camera exposures.
Dave, East River, SD

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Aug 15, 2013 08:38:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
PCity wrote:
I've read through the responses to date, and am still not clear on the answer. Replies seem to go off in different directions.

Again, as orginally asked, if one crops "in camera" vs. cropping in"post", which would produce a better print...or would they be equal in quality [without any super duber post processsing software].

Since you're working with the same image, I don't see how cropping here or there would make a difference in quality. Cropping on a 3" LCD doesn't seem like the most precise way to modify an image. I prefer a full size monitor.

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