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This is the best reason I have seen on why to be a Republican.
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Aug 6, 2013 11:09:04   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
This man should run for president!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/n_YQ8560E1w?autoplay=1

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Aug 6, 2013 11:35:25   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
Might want to read up on the Dixiecrats and how they wanted to overturn Truman's advances in ending discrimination and return the US back to segragation and having lost their bid then became the new Republican party we have today.

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Aug 6, 2013 12:00:25   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Might want to read up on the Dixiecrats and how they wanted to overturn Truman's advances in ending discrimination and return the US back to segragation and having lost their bid then became the new Republican party we have today.


I don't really care about all that silly liberal hyperbole, Guilleroy simply impresses me as a man of character.

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Aug 6, 2013 12:05:48   #
orindaman
 
I think he may be the tip of the iceberg along with a few other well spoken blacks to move to the Republican Party.

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Aug 6, 2013 12:28:02   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
Jakebrake wrote:
I don't really care about all that silly liberal hyperbole, Guilleroy simply impresses me as a man of character.


Then you don't care about truth or reality. The truth is the Democratic party was split with the Dixiecrats of the South that were racists. Over the course of a couple of decades, those Dixiecrats became Republican and that's how the South has become the bastion of conservative racism and Republicanism and the Democrats became the weaned of racist conservatives and a more pure liberal party and the Republicans gradually were overcome with the conservative and racist attitudes we see today. In other words, the Democrats got rid of the disease of conservativism and racism, and the Republicans adopted it and created a reversal of philosophy.

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Aug 6, 2013 12:44:46   #
heyrob Loc: Western Washington
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Might want to read up on the Dixiecrats and how they wanted to overturn Truman's advances in ending discrimination and return the US back to segragation and having lost their bid then became the new Republican party we have today.


Another "bend the truth to suit my ideology" liberal. The Dixicrats didn't just become Republicans, they started their own third party, when that failed the party fell apart and most returned to the democratic party as less than hard core democrats. Others did indeed join the southern republicans, however to paint the entire party as racist is disingenuous. The Democrats are hardly squeaky clean in the history of race relations, lets not forget that the KKK was originally backed by the Democrats in the south.

The documentation has been assembled by David Barton and published in his book "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem. Only as a means to endear themselves to the black community did they change their stripes, and somehow convince the black population to forget their real history. Something that Mr. Guilleroy succinctly points out in this video.

For a short history that even a short attention span should be able to handle try this...
http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

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Aug 6, 2013 12:51:31   #
heyrob Loc: Western Washington
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Then you don't care about truth or reality. The truth is the Democratic party was split with the Dixiecrats of the South that were racists. Over the course of a couple of decades, those Dixiecrats became Republican and that's how the South has become the bastion of conservative racism and Republicanism and the Democrats became the weaned of racist conservatives and a more pure liberal party and the Republicans gradually were overcome with the conservative and racist attitudes we see today. In other words, the Democrats got rid of the disease of conservativism and racism, and the Republicans adopted it and created a reversal of philosophy.
Then you don't care about truth or reality. The t... (show quote)


Thinking isn't your strong suit, is it?

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Aug 6, 2013 12:56:04   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
It's true, neither party can be painted because there ARE so many shades of gray. Lincoln is revered and admired including by myself for his emancipation of the slaves, by his being able to hold the country together in it's toughest time. FDR as well. With all of Kennedy's personal faults evidence suggests he was planning on getting us out of Vietnam before it became the quaqmire it became at the cost of so many lives. Yet it was another Democrat in Johnson that created the hell it became for which this country is still suffering. But to take one segment of history, one fact and say ''well because this was so it's still so'' is both naive' and ignorant. Times have changed, philosophies have changed. Again, would the great general and president that was Eisenhower have even been nominated by todays Republican party? Read his quote and tell me that today's Republicans align themselves with that philosophy or is it Democrats. Yesterday doesn't matter except to learn the history of our successe's and failures. That's where we are today and tomorrow it may change by the success's and failures of today. That Lincoln was a GOP is irrelevant today. Who the KKK stemmed from is irrelevant in that if an honest survey were done of today's KKK one would probably find an overwhelming number of conservatives which are usually conservative rather than liberals or Dem's. The inherent philosophy of a conservative is to avoid change, to keep things the way they were in the past while the liberal philosophy it to examine new ideas and change and see if that will bring us a better society or world. That's why things have changed. That's why today's conservatives and Republicans have rejected Eisenhowers' philosophy in such white and black colors--no pun intended.

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Aug 6, 2013 12:57:27   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
heyrob wrote:
Thinking isn't your strong suit, is it?


Well thought out response. Tell me that today's Republican party embraces the quote of Eisenhower....

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Aug 6, 2013 13:36:50   #
rickerb Loc: utah
 
I agree with both of you. Eisenhower had it right and he warned America of the Oligarchy of big business. It is my opinion that 'big business' is at the root of most of our problems.

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Aug 6, 2013 13:37:34   #
heyrob Loc: Western Washington
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Well thought out response. Tell me that today's Republican party embraces the quote of Eisenhower....


I'm not Republican, so I couldn't tell you what the Republican party embraces today. I can say with certainty that the majority of the population is self described as conservative or moderate, by a factor of more than two to one vs liberal, and I'm equally as certain that the vast majority of the population is NOT racist. To paint the majority of the population with a wide racist brush just because you disagree with their policies, is just plain stupid, so I stand by my original statement.

BTW, here's a little fact to back up my contention. A 2009 Gallup poll shows that 40 percent of Americans consider themselves conservative; 35 percent moderate; and 21 percent view themselves as liberal. Moderates veer more towards conservatism (35 percent) than liberalism (20 percent). Therefore over 52% of the population leans right, while only 28% leans left. No wonder you're so concerned about racism, you're in a minority too!

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Aug 6, 2013 13:43:11   #
heyrob Loc: Western Washington
 
rickerb wrote:
It is my opinion that 'big business' is at the root of most of our problems.


Really? So you'd prefer living in the third world? It has been big business that has given the U.S. one of the highest standards of living on the planet. If you want to see where the degradation of our society is centered one need look no farther than Washington DC. If the politicians wanted to solve the economy, racial division, or any of the other myriad of problems this country faces, it would have been done long ago. It is to their personal benefit, booth republicans and democrats alike to have us mired in all this mess. Look at what wonderful perks they afford themselves. They never seem to have a problem padding their own feather beds, but solving the problems of the country well that's just too hard.

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Aug 6, 2013 13:44:21   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
rickerb wrote:
I agree with both of you. Eisenhower had it right and he warned America of the Oligarchy of big business. It is my opinion that 'big business' is at the root of most of our problems.


Nice try at twisting what he said. He warned of a military-industrial complex which includes big government. It is the unholy melding of big government and big business, called Fascism, that is the problem. Big government is required to wage war all over the world, to organize and finance it's cost. To blame it on big business alone and give big government a pass is a distortion of the truth.

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Aug 6, 2013 13:52:02   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
Heyrob, glad to hear you are not Repbublican. But still wouldn't it be fair to say as an outsider what their philosophy is? I mean they've hardly kept it a secret especially in recent years. Not sure about your comment about the vast majority isn't racist though. Sure, I don't mean belonging to radical groups or radical actions, but just inherent? Perhaps also the majority don't act out any overt racist actions towards other so in that vein you're contention might seem correct. People who act out their racist feelings are a minority but then I'm a white man so maybe that question would best be answered by a room full of darker skinned people than by us? Would that not be a fair determination of who experiences it and who doesn't. I think their opinion and experiences would differ vastly with your's and mine. As to stats, as anyone knows they are virtually useless and I have no problem with moderation as well. For example, if I were polled and asked if I was happy with Obama I would say no, yet that would just show that someone doesn't like him but not the reason. If 3 people are polled just as an extreme example, one was Republican and hated him, one was Demo and loved him I would be the deciding vote and he would get a result of a 66% opposition but just why? Because in my opinion he hasn't done enough to stand up against the extremest right wing, so that makes that stat completely misleading. One vote to oppose, one vote to agree and one vote that feels unhappy because he hasn't been STRONGER against the right. That being all said, going back to the Republican conservative party, now that you admit you're not one of them, how do you feel about the quote from Eisenhower and their stand now?

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Aug 6, 2013 17:03:57   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Heyrob, glad to hear you are not Repbublican. But still wouldn't it be fair to say as an outsider what their philosophy is? I mean they've hardly kept it a secret especially in recent years. Not sure about your comment about the vast majority isn't racist though. Sure, I don't mean belonging to radical groups or radical actions, but just inherent? Perhaps also the majority don't act out any overt racist actions towards other so in that vein you're contention might seem correct. People who act out their racist feelings are a minority but then I'm a white man so maybe that question would best be answered by a room full of darker skinned people than by us? Would that not be a fair determination of who experiences it and who doesn't. I think their opinion and experiences would differ vastly with your's and mine. As to stats, as anyone knows they are virtually useless and I have no problem with moderation as well. For example, if I were polled and asked if I was happy with Obama I would say no, yet that would just show that someone doesn't like him but not the reason. If 3 people are polled just as an extreme example, one was Republican and hated him, one was Demo and loved him I would be the deciding vote and he would get a result of a 66% opposition but just why? Because in my opinion he hasn't done enough to stand up against the extremest right wing, so that makes that stat completely misleading. One vote to oppose, one vote to agree and one vote that feels unhappy because he hasn't been STRONGER against the right. That being all said, going back to the Republican conservative party, now that you admit you're not one of them, how do you feel about the quote from Eisenhower and their stand now?
Heyrob, glad to hear you are not Repbublican. But... (show quote)


Well said. Any resemblance of the GOP today and the GOP of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower or even Nixon or Reagan is non existent.
Nixon would be a flaming liberal by today's GOP standards and Reagan would be considered suspect for being willing to compromise.
Today's Republicans are more in accord with Joe McCarthy of the 1950's.

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