Ambrose wrote:
Russia wasn't exactly being diplomatic. In fact, they were pretty much asses about it.
So, put yourself in the president's shoes. What would you do about it?
I'm not the POTUS, it doesn't matter what I would do. What would or should any other government leader do?
Ambrose wrote:
Russia wasn't exactly being diplomatic. In fact, they were pretty much asses about it.
So, put yourself in the president's shoes. What would you do about it?
Do you mean obama or a real president???
heyrob
Loc: Western Washington
sourdough58 wrote:
Putin poked his finger in obumers eye when he let snowden stay in the Russian airport for weeks and there was no downside next step for Putin POKE obumer in the other eye by befriending snowden, obumers ego is hurt and his pride is in the dumpster so to try to save face he will threaten to not go to the summit, as if putin cares... obumer should suck-it-up, put on his big boy pants and go to the summit and represent the Greatest nation on earth the USA.
Has BHO got a pair of big boy pants? Seems he's always whining about not getting his way, I think he's still wearing knickers. He hides them in an empty suit, sitting in an empty chair.
I agree with every one of you. little o is not presidential material by any stretch of the imagination. why he hasn't been impeached is a mystery to me. can someone give me a reason for that?
To all... You're right!!!!
This is analogous to: The neighbor's son steals you bicycle and you father's response is that to get even we won't attend the neighbor's barbecue
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
So, a question: What were we supposed to do? Bomb the airport? Stop sales of Russian vodka?
Rather shallow analysis!
Russia has much to gain with better relations with the US especially in reference to trade.
The US needs Russia for transit of material to the troops in central Asia.
Nevertheless, we have alternatives to supplying the troops and with the drawdown those there will need less.
On the other hand, Russia needs the trade and has aspirations to join the common market something we can block with diplomatic pressure.
One has to wonder why Putin, who is usually a pretty good analyzer of a situation, made his decision. What internal pressures were placed upon him to do so?
heyrob wrote:
"President Obama is scheduled to visit Russia in September to attend the G-20 economic summit. Those meetings will be held St. Petersburg; even before Thursday's events, tension between the U.S. and Russia over Snowden had fueled speculation that Obama might not visit Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow during his trip.
I'm sure that threat will so disappoint Putin that he's certain to change that decision... Yeah Right! I'll bet he's trying to think of other ways to guarantee that outcome.
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Rather shallow analysis!
Russia has much to gain with better relations with the US especially in reference to trade.
The US needs Russia for transit of material to the troops in central Asia.
Nevertheless, we have alternatives to supplying the troops and with the drawdown those there will need less.
On the other hand, Russia needs the trade and has aspirations to join the common market something we can block with diplomatic pressure.
One has to wonder why Putin, who is usually a pretty good analyzer of a situation, made his decision. What internal pressures were placed upon him to do so?
heyrob wrote:
"President Obama is scheduled to visit Russia in September to attend the G-20 economic summit. Those meetings will be held St. Petersburg; even before Thursday's events, tension between the U.S. and Russia over Snowden had fueled speculation that Obama might not visit Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow during his trip.
I'm sure that threat will so disappoint Putin that he's certain to change that decision... Yeah Right! I'll bet he's trying to think of other ways to guarantee that outcome.
"President Obama is scheduled to visit Russia... (
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Hell all they have to do is tell the Russians Snowden is gay and they will have him out of the country or in jail, naturally Snowden will deny it.
heyrob
Loc: Western Washington
ole sarg wrote:
Rather shallow analysis!
Russia has much to gain with better relations with the US especially in reference to trade.
The US needs Russia for transit of material to the troops in central Asia.
Nevertheless, we have alternatives to supplying the troops and with the drawdown those there will need less.
On the other hand, Russia needs the trade and has aspirations to join the common market something we can block with diplomatic pressure.
One has to wonder why Putin, who is usually a pretty good analyzer of a situation, made his decision. What internal pressures were placed upon him to do so?
Rather shallow analysis! br br Russia has much to... (
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Blah, blah, blah...
Post ignored do to source. Besides I heard you the first time.
What Snowden revealed was already on the public record in Congressional testimony and other "open source" material.
A bigger concern, which seems to be ignored is the Director National Security James Clapper lying in testimony before Congress in March. His apology letter stated ''Clapper apologized for giving clearly erroneous testimony at a March hearing of the committee, . . . Clapper had previously said that his answer to the committee was the least untruthful one he could publicly provide."
Snowden is a non-issue in so far as national security is affected. Keep your eye on the ball and not the bullshit the government and the press wants us to hear/read. As long as the government can keep the public confused, the less the officials have to be concerned about.
Obama, Nixon, Johnson, et al each mislead the public except Nixon got caught.
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
toma1940 wrote:
What Snowden revealed was already on the public record in Congressional testimony and other "open source" material.
A bigger concern, which seems to be ignored is the Director National Security James Clapper lying in testimony before Congress in March. His apology letter stated ''Clapper apologized for giving clearly erroneous testimony at a March hearing of the committee, . . . Clapper had previously said that his answer to the committee was the least untruthful one he could publicly provide."
Snowden is a non-issue in so far as national security is affected. Keep your eye on the ball and not the bullshit the government and the press wants us to hear/read. As long as the government can keep the public confused, the less the officials have to be concerned about.
Obama, Nixon, Johnson, et al each mislead the public except Nixon got caught.
What Snowden revealed was already on the public re... (
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Points well-taken. Still, Snowden may have done the public a favor by bringing the issue front and center. How many people paid attention to Clapper's testimony and pseudo-apology? And are our rights being invaded and whittled away in the name of security?
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