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Jul 31, 2013 08:27:42   #
farmerjim Loc: Rugby, England
 
I'm hoping one of you more computer savvy Hogs might be able to help me.
I'm getting frustrated that when I'm working with RAW files in CS6 my PC starts getting slower and slower until when I try to open a DNG file I get a notice saying there's not enough RAM. When I go back to the " file open" not all the thumbnails appear.
Now I know my setup isn't ideal, I have 3GB RAM and a dual core CPU 4300 @1.8 GHz.
Available RAM in Photoshop is 1659 MB and it's using 1576MB.
I have three scratch discs of 69,58 and 14 GB.
I regularly "Purge....all" but after working on about 5 or 6, 9 MB DNG files the trouble starts.
I'm thinking there must be a cache that's getting full because I have to exit CS6 and restart it before I can carry on.
Your advice will be greatly appreciated! Please don't just tell me to get a new box! I know it's slow but I can live with that for the mo' :) :) :)

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Jul 31, 2013 08:54:25   #
BillyDuds Loc: North Carolina
 
I'm in about the same boat as you. I have 4 GB RAM on my MacBook Pro, and working on raw files in Photoshop it soon slumps into molasses mode. I've been putting off buying more RAM, maybe as much as 16 GB, but that seems to be the best answer to speeding things up. It'll cost around $130 I think, but definitely cheaper than buying a whole new laptop. Anybody out there who can offer a better solution?

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Jul 31, 2013 08:57:39   #
sportyman140 Loc: Juliette, GA
 
farmerjim wrote:
I'm hoping one of you more computer savvy Hogs might be able to help me.
I'm getting frustrated that when I'm working with RAW files in CS6 my PC starts getting slower and slower until when I try to open a DNG file I get a notice saying there's not enough RAM. When I go back to the " file open" not all the thumbnails appear.
Now I know my setup isn't ideal, I have 3GB RAM and a dual core CPU 4300 @1.8 GHz.
Available RAM in Photoshop is 1659 MB and it's using 1576MB.
I have three scratch discs of 69,58 and 14 GB.
I regularly "Purge....all" but after working on about 5 or 6, 9 MB DNG files the trouble starts.
I'm thinking there must be a cache that's getting full because I have to exit CS6 and restart it before I can carry on.
Your advice will be greatly appreciated! Please don't just tell me to get a new box! I know it's slow but I can live with that for the mo' :) :) :)
I'm hoping one of you more computer savvy Hogs mig... (show quote)


Hi Farmerjim, I use PSE11 and LR5 and have started getting the same messages too I have a gateway laptop (gamers computer) but I have 8 gig ram, 2 gig video ram, and the message I get is, The LR is utilizing too much CPU mem, or it shuts down and I have to close it & restart LR to finish work. Very frustrating, LR4 did not have this problem.

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Jul 31, 2013 09:21:17   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
farmerjim wrote:
... when I'm working with RAW files in CS6 my PC starts getting slower and slower until when I try to open a DNG file I get a notice saying there's not enough RAM. ...:)

When you do not have enough RAM, Windows will try to use some of the free space your hard drive, but this is a poor solution and will often be too slow. It won't do much for you if your hard drive is inherently slow or relatively full.

Three GB of RAM is simply not enough. Memory is cheap and easy to install. Take your PC to a repair center and have them install as much as you can afford.

If you computer is not capable of holding more RAM it is probably too slow in other ways.

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Jul 31, 2013 09:32:16   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
sportyman140 wrote:
Hi Farmerjim, I use PSE11 and LR5 and have started getting the same messages too I have a gateway laptop (gamers computer) but I have 8 gig ram....

Take a look at your Virtual Memory settings to see how much of your hard drive can be used as RAM. If you don't have plenty of hard drive available you may need to move some of your data to a separate drive.

Eight GB should be enough and it is possible that your Gateway may not hold any more (check the specs). Add some if you can.

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Jul 31, 2013 10:14:15   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
I have a quad core i5 16gb and two 3Tb drives and I find it slow, so upgrading to I7, 16gb

You can't increase the RAM as I assume your OS is 32bit so it only supports 4GB, you really need to upgrade, sorry.

One thing you could try is when you have CS open

1. Ctrl-alt-delete
2. Task Manager
3. Right click CS in SERVICES
4. Set priority to HIGH

Also close down all no required services (this takes IT knowledge", also

1. START
2. type in MSCONFIG
3. Click on it
4. Disabled all unnecessary startup files

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Jul 31, 2013 10:16:26   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
selmslie wrote:
Take a look at your Virtual Memory settings to see how much of your hard drive can be used as RAM. If you don't have plenty of hard drive available you may need to move some of your data to a separate drive.

Eight GB should be enough and it is possible that your Gateway may not hold any more (check the specs). Add some if you can.


8GB will not be seen by a 32bit os, maximum is 4, installing any more than 4GB in a 32bit OS is pointless, you could upgrade to 64bit if you don't have it

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Jul 31, 2013 10:18:56   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Also remember that you need a GOOD graphic card, a slow one will kill processing

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Jul 31, 2013 11:40:44   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
JR1 wrote:
8GB will not be seen by a 32bit os, maximum is 4, installing any more than 4GB in a 32bit OS is pointless, you could upgrade to 64bit if you don't have it

Good point. I missed that the OP may have 32-bit.

The response to sportyman140 still holds since LR5 is likely on Windows 7, which can easily be upgraded to 64-bit from 32-bit.

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Jul 31, 2013 11:45:26   #
farmerjim Loc: Rugby, England
 
Thank you all very much indeed for the quick response and interesting answers. :thumbup:
Selmslie, thanks, I'll take a look at the virtual memory, I may be able to open up something.
JR1, ta for the ideas. I've already used task manager to shut down processes and services not needed. I have just looked for CS in services but can't see it, could it be CscService? I right clicked it and there's just the usual start/stop option or go to process.
I can add one more GB of RAM but may have to bite the bullet and upgrade.
Thanks for all the help.

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Jul 31, 2013 11:58:29   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
If you upgrade don't get a processor less than cor i7

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Jul 31, 2013 12:03:05   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
farmerjim wrote:
Thank you all very much indeed for the quick response and interesting answers. :thumbup:
Selmslie, thanks, I'll take a look at the virtual memory, I may be able to open up something.
JR1, ta for the ideas. I've already used task manager to shut down processes and services not needed. I have just looked for CS in services but can't see it, could it be CscService? I right clicked it and there's just the usual start/stop option or go to process.
I can add one more GB of RAM but may have to bite the bullet and upgrade.
Thanks for all the help.
Thank you all very much indeed for the quick respo... (show quote)


Here is Elements set to high priority in task manager I don't know your OS



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Jul 31, 2013 12:05:13   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
farmerjim wrote:
Thank you all very much indeed for the quick response and interesting answers. :thumbup:
Selmslie, thanks, I'll take a look at the virtual memory, I may be able to open up something.
JR1, ta for the ideas. I've already used task manager to shut down processes and services not needed. I have just looked for CS in services but can't see it, could it be CscService? I right clicked it and there's just the usual start/stop option or go to process.
I can add one more GB of RAM but may have to bite the bullet and upgrade.
Thanks for all the help.
Thank you all very much indeed for the quick respo... (show quote)


As I said if your os is 32bit then more RAM is pointless as it will not see or use more, you could add 32GBG (if the board took it) but it could and will only use 4GB

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Jul 31, 2013 12:06:56   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
tramsey wrote:
If you upgrade don't get a processor less than cor i7


Hmmm, yes to a point I agrr, though the I5 is a good processor, it isn't just the processor, it's the board, graphic card, memory (speed as well as amount), and more that make a PC.

A fast and well configured I5 system will out perform a rubbish I7 system

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Jul 31, 2013 12:07:42   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
farmerjim wrote:
...I can add one more GB of RAM but may have to bite the bullet and upgrade.
Thanks for all the help.

At 1.8 Ghz, your processing speed is also below par. An upgrade is probably in order.

And for tramsey, Core I7 (probably quad core) is only about $150 more and noticeably faster than Core I5 (dual core) , but either will handle Windows 7 64-bit.

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