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Jul 26, 2013 23:29:59   #
use2btiny
 
The situation: I took pictures at our church with my own camera using a backdrop provided and put up by professional photographer. The PP arranged the lighting, told me what to set my camera setting at. I arranged the people, shot the photos with my own camera, did minimal cropping and editing. When I went to Walgren's to get them printed off they would not print them without a release signed by me because they "looked professional". There was no copyright or watermarking of any kind. I did not consider it a compliment since it was mostly set up by a pro. Was this just an unlearned person or is this common?

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Jul 26, 2013 23:33:59   #
twindad Loc: SW Michigan, frolicking in the snow.
 
use2btiny wrote:
The situation: I took pictures at our church with my own camera using a backdrop provided and put up by professional photographer. The PP arranged the lighting, told me what to set my camera setting at. I arranged the people, shot the photos with my own camera, did minimal cropping and editing. When I went to Walgren's to get them printed off they would not print them without a release signed by me because they "looked professional". There was no copyright or watermarking of any kind. I did not consider it a compliment since it was mostly set up by a pro. Was this just an unlearned person or is this common?
The situation: I took pictures at our church with ... (show quote)


Take it as a compliment. Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago when I did a family shoot and gave them a CD of the images. They took it in to get prints and (I think it was WalMart) wouldn't do it without a release from me. I was flattered as hell.

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Jul 26, 2013 23:34:45   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
use2btiny wrote:
The situation: I took pictures at our church with my own camera using a backdrop provided and put up by professional photographer. The PP arranged the lighting, told me what to set my camera setting at. I arranged the people, shot the photos with my own camera, did minimal cropping and editing. When I went to Walgren's to get them printed off they would not print them without a release signed by me because they "looked professional". There was no copyright or watermarking of any kind. I did not consider it a compliment since it was mostly set up by a pro. Was this just an unlearned person or is this common?
The situation: I took pictures at our church with ... (show quote)

Consider where you were and sign the release.

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Jul 26, 2013 23:55:36   #
Macromad Loc: New Zealand
 
As long as you still have the images saved, then there is no harm in signine the release. just make sure that what you sign is not giving them permission to use your pictures free and gratis for advertising.

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Jul 27, 2013 00:13:15   #
use2btiny
 
Thank you. I also posted these photos to dropbox and the people were suppose to be able to access them and get them printed themselves. Up til now I have not heard anything from them. I was under the impression that photos had to be tagged or something to prevent them from being copied and printed. Live and learn...

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Jul 27, 2013 09:19:14   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
use2btiny wrote:
The situation: I took pictures at our church with my own camera using a backdrop provided and put up by professional photographer. The PP arranged the lighting, told me what to set my camera setting at. I arranged the people, shot the photos with my own camera, did minimal cropping and editing. When I went to Walgren's to get them printed off they would not print them without a release signed by me because they "looked professional". There was no copyright or watermarking of any kind. I did not consider it a compliment since it was mostly set up by a pro. Was this just an unlearned person or is this common?
The situation: I took pictures at our church with ... (show quote)


Why would a professional who is probably getting paid for the photos, allow you to use his equipment and give you instructions on how to shoot the photos? This does not make any sense to me.

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Jul 27, 2013 12:43:32   #
use2btiny
 
David Kay wrote:
Why would a professional who is probably getting paid for the photos, allow you to use his equipment and give you instructions on how to shoot the photos? This does not make any sense to me.


I believe that these two professionals do this once a year to bless and serve our community for the glory of God. No they do not get paid. If one gets paid for everything what reward is there in that?
No heavenly rewards that is for sure.

My only question was is this a common thing to have to sign a release to have your own photos printed. Thank you for your answers

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Jul 27, 2013 12:54:54   #
14kphotog Loc: Marietta, Ohio
 
David Kay wrote:
Why would a professional who is probably getting paid for the photos, allow you to use his equipment and give you instructions on how to shoot the photos? This does not make any sense to me.

Many years ago I had the same thing happen to me when my daughter was a New York Model. The Pro who was doing the shoot invited me to shoot on his set, and set up the lighting for me. He paid it forward and I did it for years as a wedding photog. Not all pros are butt holes. Just sign the release and take it as a compliment to your shooting. If the printers were to print a pros copyrighted work, and got caught, it gets REAL expensive for them in fines and royalties. BIG $$$$$

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Jul 27, 2013 13:22:06   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
David Kay wrote:
Why would a professional who is probably getting paid for the photos, allow you to use his equipment and give you instructions on how to shoot the photos? This does not make any sense to me.


Because they are AWESOME people besides being Pro Photogs!!
A really good pro is also willing to help others learn the craft, knowing that MOST of them will not spend the money or time to get the equipment and experience to actually take business away from them.

And these are the pros that get lots more referrals too!!

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Jul 27, 2013 13:25:08   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
use2btiny wrote:
The situation: I took pictures at our church with my own camera using a backdrop provided and put up by professional photographer. The PP arranged the lighting, told me what to set my camera setting at. I arranged the people, shot the photos with my own camera, did minimal cropping and editing. When I went to Walgren's to get them printed off they would not print them without a release signed by me because they "looked professional". There was no copyright or watermarking of any kind. I did not consider it a compliment since it was mostly set up by a pro. Was this just an unlearned person or is this common?
The situation: I took pictures at our church with ... (show quote)


"Most" places that print photos will request the release if the pictures look like "studio" setups, etc in order to protect themselves from those who try to "steal" photos posted on websites and get them printed as their own. Consider it a complement. And most Walgreen's, Walmart, etc will keep the form they have you sign on file so the next time you go in and they ask you to sign, just tell them they should have your release on file.

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Jul 29, 2013 11:56:31   #
13oct1931 Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
Must have been a new, untrained person.
Better yet--Do your own processing with Picasa from Google; its free. Alyn

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Jul 29, 2013 12:32:11   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
13oct1931 wrote:
Must have been a new, untrained person.
Better yet--Do your own processing with Picasa from Google; its free. Alyn


No, actually it was a TRAINED person, and correctly I might add.
The UNTRAINED person wouldn't have noticed.

And what does using Picasa [editing software] have to do with PRINTING [at a lab]?

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Jul 29, 2013 16:43:05   #
use2btiny
 
Thank you all for your sincere help and information.

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Jul 30, 2013 00:35:17   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Wall-E wrote:
No, actually it was a TRAINED person, and correctly I might add.

Actually you make a very good point. Even at Walmart, Walgreens or Costco, I appreciate dealing with someone who cares enough about doing a good job, rather than one who doesn't care about anything except a paycheck.

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Jul 30, 2013 00:35:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Sorry, second post.

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