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Jul 26, 2013 19:29:10   #
chaser48 Loc: Texas
 
I can remember pushing TriX film to about asa1200 with grain going all over the place on an 8x10 print. Now I hear of photographers starting with an ISO of 1600. How is the "noise" with this ISO and how does it compare with the old TriX film???????? If ISO and ASA are similar......? Please advise, thanks

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Jul 26, 2013 19:34:37   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I have shooting at ISO 1600 for about 3 months and do not notice any significant noise. I am using a Sony A500. While ASA and ISO are very similar, with digital and noise reducing systems in the DSLR's today, ISO 1600 should not present any significant issues.

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Jul 26, 2013 19:41:52   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
chaser48 wrote:
I can remember pushing TriX film to about asa1200 with grain going all over the place on an 8x10 print. Now I hear of photographers starting with an ISO of 1600. How is the "noise" with this ISO and how does it compare with the old TriX film???????? If ISO and ASA are similar......? Please advise, thanks


This was shot at ISO 8000 it is all according to what camera you use but ISO 1600 is not much of a problem for most modern DSLR's

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8125/8686704049_03641cef2e_b.jpg
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Jul 26, 2013 19:45:07   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
chaser48 wrote:
I can remember pushing TriX film to about asa1200 with grain going all over the place on an 8x10 print. Now I hear of photographers starting with an ISO of 1600. How is the "noise" with this ISO and how does it compare with the old TriX film???????? If ISO and ASA are similar......? Please advise, thanks


I too used the old TriX but only up to ISO 400. Of course it was monochrome.

How your camera will do depends on the camera. They vary widely. My D800 does about as well at ISO 3200 as my D5100 and 7000 did at 1600...which is quite well.

If not well enough post processing works well to reduce noise.

ISO and ASA are essentially the same.

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Jul 26, 2013 19:45:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
hangman45 wrote:
This was shot at ISO 8000 it is all according to what camera you use but ISO 1600 is not much of a problem for most modern DSLR's


Marvelous!

What camera?

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Jul 26, 2013 19:46:53   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
MtnMan wrote:
Marvelous!

What camera?


Pentax K-5 same sensor as the D7000

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Jul 26, 2013 19:51:15   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
hangman45 wrote:
Pentax K-5 same sensor as the D7000


Gee, didn't think the D7000 would do that well that high. I had one up till a few months back.

I also thought the Pentax K-5 had a better sensor.

Guess I'm wrong on both counts.

Thanks.

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Jul 26, 2013 19:51:54   #
chaser48 Loc: Texas
 
Been using a Nikon D 90 for the last 2-3 years with no problems however, have never pushed it up to ISO 1600. Any comments or suggestions on this??? Appreciate the feed back. Just wondering how far I can push this equipment before I break down and go for a D7100 or a D800.......thanks

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Jul 26, 2013 19:58:34   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
MtnMan wrote:
Gee, didn't think the D7000 would do that well that high. I had one up till a few months back.

I also thought the Pentax K-5 had a better sensor.

Guess I'm wrong on both counts.

Thanks.


Same sensor but Pentax seems to be able to get a little extra out of the same sensor when it comes to dynamic range and color

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Jul 26, 2013 19:59:39   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
chaser48 wrote:
Been using a Nikon D 90 for the last 2-3 years with no problems however, have never pushed it up to ISO 1600. Any comments or suggestions on this??? Appreciate the feed back. Just wondering how far I can push this equipment before I break down and go for a D7100 or a D800.......thanks


The best thing to do is to try it!

I find the amount of noise you get also (in addition to your sensor) depends on amount of light and the subject. Or at least how noticeable the noise is depends on both. With good light and subjects that don't have large areas with little detail I can go pretty high...but haven't pushed beyond 3200 so far. I'm going to do more experimenting myself.

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Jul 26, 2013 20:00:38   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
chaser48 wrote:
Been using a Nikon D 90 for the last 2-3 years with no problems however, have never pushed it up to ISO 1600. Any comments or suggestions on this??? Appreciate the feed back. Just wondering how far I can push this equipment before I break down and go for a D7100 or a D800.......thanks


You might get some noise at 1600 and up with the D90 but modern noise reduction software does wonders. I would say after 3200 it would be pretty bad but 1600 should be usable.

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Jul 26, 2013 20:49:58   #
DOOK Loc: Maclean, Australia
 
I shoot my D7100 at 800 virtually all the time with absolutely no noise issues. I mainly shoot landscapes & like everything sharp from my feet to infinity. ISO800 allows high f numbers, but still maintain a fairly fast shutter. I have no qualms about going to 1600 on occasions.

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Jul 27, 2013 00:07:45   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
DOOK wrote:
I shoot my D7100 at 800 virtually all the time with absolutely no noise issues. I mainly shoot landscapes & like everything sharp from my feet to infinity. ISO800 allows high f numbers, but still maintain a fairly fast shutter. I have no qualms about going to 1600 on occasions.


I once felt a need to chat with Nikon tech support on my D5100. They told me to set ISO 500 as my baseline. I've rarely had noise issues at ISO 500.

So I've stuck by that recommendation and unless doing high quality landscapes, where I want ISO 100 or 200, I set it at 500.

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Jul 27, 2013 00:12:54   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
chaser48 wrote:
I can remember pushing TriX film to about asa1200 with grain going all over the place on an 8x10 print. Now I hear of photographers starting with an ISO of 1600. How is the "noise" with this ISO and how does it compare with the old TriX film???????? If ISO and ASA are similar......? Please advise, thanks

What developer were you using with Tri-X at 1600?

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Jul 27, 2013 06:31:38   #
RetiredPhotog Loc: South West Ohio
 
chaser48 wrote:
I can remember pushing TriX film to about asa1200 with grain going all over the place on an 8x10 print. Now I hear of photographers starting with an ISO of 1600. How is the "noise" with this ISO and how does it compare with the old TriX film???????? If ISO and ASA are similar......? Please advise, thanks


Chaser, I also used to use Tri X film pushing it to 1200 used in surveillance photography in law enforcement. It was quite grainy but was still able to identify the subject.

I shoot ISO 1600 on my D7000 quite often depending on the situation and find it not near as grainy as the old Tri x film.

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