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Those who use raw...what size do you set your camera for?
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Nov 27, 2011 18:55:54   #
krahn2011 Loc: wisconsin
 
Does it have to be a large raw?

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Nov 27, 2011 19:17:42   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
RAW means before any manipulation, which includes sizing.

Several cameras allow sizing of JPG images, such as fine, normal, or basic.

Some cameras allow recording both RAW & JPG simultaneously.

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Nov 27, 2011 19:21:05   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
RAW are always large, as per Nikonian72 answer. They can be described as your 'negative' and as such will not vary much in size.

Of note:
- if you shoot for JPEG and just want a RAW, do nothing.
- you shoot for RAW, over expose 1 f-stop

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Nov 27, 2011 19:24:30   #
Adirondack Hiker Loc: Southern Adirondacks
 
Raw only comes in one size.

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Nov 27, 2011 19:40:41   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
In theory yes but since raw contains more the simple sensor capture it does vary in size, slightly...err, I am speaking of the space on the card, not on the sensor effective capture size... need to precise that otherwise we can go at until earth changes orbit.

So:
- on space taken on your car, it will vary slightly.
- on sensor effective size, it will never change.

Note: if you use a Nikon and something else than Nikon software to play with its RAW (NEF), be ready to be disappointed (I am).

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Nov 27, 2011 19:47:46   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
English_Wolf wrote:
if you use a Nikon and something else than Nikon software to play with its RAW (NEF), be ready to be disappointed (I am).

I use Picasa 3 & Picnic to edit my Nikon RAW (NEF), with no problems whatsoever. NEF = Nikon Electronic Format
http://www.nikonusa.com/Learn-And-Explore/Nikon-Camera-Technology/ftlzi4ri/1/Nikon-Electronic-Forma-NEF.html

Canon, Sony, Kodak, Olympus, etc., all have their own proprietory "recording" (RAW) formats. Raw images can only be catured in a camera, and cannot be re-written (edited) into another RAW image. All manipulated RAW images can only be saved as a JPG, TIF, or other "printing" format.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:03:28   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
I recently learned and verified (through internet information) that Nikon does not provide all the information needed to de-encrypt their NEF format and leave part of the NEF sensor information out. A few users (here) have mentioned that they were getting better result with NX2 than any other software so I got curious and did a search on it.

They are right, Nikon is messing with us.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:06:45   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
English_Wolf wrote:
I recently learned and verified (through internet information) that Nikon does not provide all the information needed to de-encrypt their NEF format and leave part of the NEF sensor information out.

For the Anal Retentive among us, please provide your "internet information" addresses. Thank you.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:12:36   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Do your own search, I passed a few hours on it and if you think I will redo it just to make you happy, forget it.


I will not answer you with more that. Deal with it.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:14:40   #
randym77
 
Canon has a format called sRaw. Small Raw. Some cameras have different sizes of sRaw (sRaw1 and sRaw2).

I guess it might be useful if file size is an issue, and if you know you won't need large image sizes. But personally, I'd use the the largest RAW available if I'm shooting RAW. If file size or write speed is an issue, I'd probably just shoot the highest resolution JPG, instead of sRAW.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:14:57   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
English_Wolf wrote:
Do your own search, I passed a few hours on it and if you think I will redo it just to make you happy, forget it.
I will not answer you with more that. Deal with it.

So, you again present opinion as fact. You are true to form.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:16:26   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Could it be because the RAW file is based on TIFF and TIFF can be loss-less compressed?

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Nov 27, 2011 20:19:49   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
I love the way you try to denigrate something and use your verbiage as a tool to denies something when you do not wish to know something.

Same as the challenge like: please give us the laws article and number knowing that each state has different laws that can be modified by counties and even township. Great job kid, you are good at it. Confuse the issues, try to make other look like an idiot.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:20:52   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
English_Wolf wrote:
Could it be because the RAW file is based on TIFF and TIFF can be loss-less compressed?

TIFF is a "storage" or printing format, which can be altered:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format

RAW is a "capture" format that cannot be altered:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format

You can convert RAW to TIFF, but you cannot convert TIFF to RAW.

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Nov 27, 2011 20:22:47   #
lynn1
 
I shoot with a Nikon camera and use Adobe Photoshot. The RAW format works with a Nikon camera. Picassa also works and it is free. You might also use Adobe Photoshop Elements. It cost under $100. Usually, it's $99 but I've seen it for less.
Lynn

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