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Jul 18, 2013 00:39:51   #
F16 Club
 
I want you to see the full video and then analysis what you tell me how you will we succeed in UN.org and how hard will be for Samantha Power to serve as U.S.,if not dismantling the NSA and surveillance programs and domestic and foreign spionaje?
House Judiciary Cmte. Holds Hearing on FISA Authorities

The House Judiciary Committee holds an unclassified hearing on the administration's use of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) authorities, including witnesses from the Department of Justice, NSA, FBI and law and civil liberties experts.
http://www.c-span.org/ :shock:

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Jul 19, 2013 09:45:48   #
jamitjim73 Loc: Franklin,Tn.
 
does anyone understand what F16 is saying?

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Jul 19, 2013 10:07:31   #
GARGLEBLASTER Loc: Spain
 
jamitjim73 wrote:
does anyone understand what F16 is saying?


No.

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Jul 19, 2013 10:12:00   #
eye2eye Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
jamitjim73 wrote:
does anyone understand what F16 is saying?
Does anyone care?

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Jul 19, 2013 10:32:11   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Does F16 know or understand what he is saying?

jamitjim73 wrote:
does anyone understand what F16 is saying?

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Jul 19, 2013 11:30:13   #
F16 Club
 
letmedance wrote:
Does F16 know or understand what he is saying?


letmedance; I have not doubt you can understand; your IQ is less than enought to understand.
If all money spended in NSA , Prism, And all other survigilance in america where spend in HealhtCare, Education, and to improves the infrastructure of Electric Grid, water supplay and Masive transportation we will be beter .
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Jul 19, 2013 11:52:48   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Your post is hard to understand. Are you using a language translation program?

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Jul 19, 2013 11:58:16   #
eye2eye Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
letmedance wrote:
Your post is hard to understand. Are you using a language translation program?
No he is an old man that has to blow into a tube to move his wheelchair. His home healthcare worker has 3 inch lime green nails, which makes it hard for her to hit the right keys when he dictates.

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Jul 19, 2013 12:25:51   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Really,
you are surely pulling my leg.


eye2eye wrote:
No he is an old man that has to blow into a tube to move his wheelchair. His home healthcare worker has 3 inch lime green nails, which makes it hard for her to hit the right keys when he dictates.

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Jul 19, 2013 12:27:43   #
eye2eye Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
letmedance wrote:
Really,
you are surely pulling my leg.
Nobody really knows. One entry is so broken and unintelligible and the next is perfect grammar and syntax. You tell me. lol

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Jul 19, 2013 12:54:58   #
mslubner Loc: Redskin Ridge, Texas
 
It's a translation thing. Been up against this before in my web-based employment. He's not really able to phrase correctly, words are substituted for the more normal "slang" Americans are used to using and inflection and non-serious tone all point to a translator that isn't able to do a good job from his home language. He makes sense in the abstract and thinks we are making fun of him rather than see him as having valid thoughts. That's because the thoughts as they come through are not coherent in our language. Sometimes a simple phrase or thought can be translated almost perfectly but in more convoluted sentences, the translations are impossible. I know this is so in some of the Middle Eastern languages, Portuguese and places where more than one dialect is used.

Not that too many of you will care, but I do think he's trying to express valid opinions but none of us can figure out what they are.

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Jul 19, 2013 13:59:55   #
F16 Club
 
mslubner wrote:
It's a translation thing. Been up against this before in my web-based employment. He's not really able to phrase correctly, words are substituted for the more normal "slang" Americans are used to using and inflection and non-serious tone all point to a translator that isn't able to do a good job from his home language. He makes sense in the abstract and thinks we are making fun of him rather than see him as having valid thoughts. That's because the thoughts as they come through are not coherent in our language. Sometimes a simple phrase or thought can be translated almost perfectly but in more convoluted sentences, the translations are impossible. I know this is so in some of the Middle Eastern languages, Portuguese and places where more than one dialect is used.

Not that too many of you will care, but I do think he's trying to express valid opinions but none of us can figure out what they are.
It's a translation thing. Been up against this be... (show quote)

mslubner; Have you troble to understand this?
Well all survigilance programs are waste money and very danger to continue in operation; it can ended in a disaster, none of then can campete with (Darknet) Have you and idea how?
Tin Tan Burundanga .
http://youtu.be/1dmJdx_4MHk

.Tin Tan El Calamar .
http://youtu.be/Py23MTS_WoY :shock:

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Jul 19, 2013 15:38:18   #
mslubner Loc: Redskin Ridge, Texas
 
Well sir, I have never believed in surveillance programs of any sort on any level as an American who believes in privacy of individuals. The argument for them is valid - to insure safety and protect the citizens. But as in so many things, once you take something out of context, such as monitoring internet, phone, etc. activity, people tend to form a bias opinion of the activity - something that may or may not be true. I do understand what you are saying and I don't have much of a solution. I do not want to be tracked in a computer, nor do I want to have a terrorist fly a plane into my home and kill me. The monitoring going on by the government on all levels is escalating and we are losing our freedoms and privacy. Yet, it probably has saved lives as well. The potential for misuse is enormous and can we trust our government agencies to only use this information for pure and honest purposes? I'm not sure I can answer that without feeling remorse on one side or the other of the answer. BTW, F16 Club, is your primary language Cuban?

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Jul 19, 2013 17:10:52   #
F16 Club
 
mslubner wrote:
Well sir, I have never believed in surveillance programs of any sort on any level as an American who believes in privacy of individuals. The argument for them is valid - to insure safety and protect the citizens. But as in so many things, once you take something out of context, such as monitoring internet, phone, etc. activity, people tend to form a bias opinion of the activity - something that may or may not be true. I do understand what you are saying and I don't have much of a solution. I do not want to be tracked in a computer, nor do I want to have a terrorist fly a plane into my home and kill me. The monitoring going on by the government on all levels is escalating and we are losing our freedoms and privacy. Yet, it probably has saved lives as well. The potential for misuse is enormous and can we trust our government agencies to only use this information for pure and honest purposes? I'm not sure I can answer that without feeling remorse on one side or the other of the answer. BTW, F16 Club, is your primary language Cuban?
Well sir, I have never believed in surveillance pr... (show quote)


mslubner;Yet, it probably has saved lives as well. No Sr. those live could be saved if so, without the infamy violation of our liberty and Constitutional right. In fact we are actually more vulnerables than ever, and pray every day for the dismantled of all this Circus. On concern to my primary language, let me clarify you first language Cuban does not existe, they speak spanish. It is very difficult traslate my primary language to English so it will be inutil give you and idea.
I can explaing you here neither privately in the forum how much we are unprotected , the best the this NSA agency can do is delete all data colected and Congress abolish the Patriot Act, NSA, and all programs.
Today I cannot say god bless america, if God protect america.
:thumbup:

You want to learn palestinian undergroud cuban language? well is very difficult some time like this Canadian what is doing is a ridicule of himself.
Cuban Spanish Phrases & Slang .
http://youtu.be/Q4ovxMFly2M
Cuban Slang Part 2 .
http://youtu.be/qISYyBgZKsI
.Cuban teaches spanish to a Redneck .
http://youtu.be/gbh6PAYkSBI

It reminds me of the French when they controlled viet nan, who failed to understand why the Vietnamese girls had stained teeth.
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Jul 19, 2013 17:52:54   #
mslubner Loc: Redskin Ridge, Texas
 
I see what you are getting at.

I asked if you were speaking as a Cuban because the Cuban Spanish is a little different than Castilsan (misspelled, I know) Spanish of which I can understand some. It is a particular dialect. Even the Spanish translations are mangled when translated into English - it is even more mangled when speaking to a Cuban. :-)

I had a very hard time helping a Portuguese lady I spoke with for about 3 years at my last on-line job because the slight difference of her dialect from the main area of her country, was almost impossible to correctly translate using traditional methods. :-)

In closing, I think the American people need to stop thinking they are to lofty to be attacked and start becoming more aware of themselves, their dealings and surroundings. If all people would protect themselves with awareness, less protection would be needed by the government. But that is just my opinion and not a fact.

I agree that the present system used by this country is not doing what it was supposed to do. Still, until all people participate in protecting this country and it's people's rights, the only system we seem to have is this faulty one.

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