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Jul 16, 2013 12:46:14   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
That type of photo is a tall order for a photographer with only a Canon 7D. I would suggest talking to pro that specializes in this type of photo. I'm sure he, or she would use a large format camera, with a wide angle lens. If you want to try, you should looking into renting the largest format camera you can get, and the proper lens. You can get some good ideas by calling a lens rental company and get their take on what you will need. Lighting such a large group, and keeping their attention during the shoot will be a problem. following the shoot you will have to produce a very large image, so that everyone will be able to identify each other in the shot. Maybe you could find a way to break up the group in smaller numbers. If it were me in your shoes, I would contract the large group shot to a pro if the family wants a quality outcome.
That type of photo is a tall order for a photograp... (show quote)


I once did a Boy Scout Jamboree group shot of over 480 scouts. I shot it from the roof of the camps lodge with a Pentax 645 and a 35mm lens, was barely able to get them all in, but at least you could see all their faces on the 30" x 40" print, and all were easily identifiable too. A crop sensor is hardly the right tool for this job.

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Jul 16, 2013 13:14:10   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Break them down into groups of related family i.e. aunt bess and the kids, etc and take seperate shots and stitch together until you have composit. You cannot shoot 900-1500 people and see any faces. I would be curious as to what you plan to print the photo on - you will need about a 4X8 foot piece of paper,

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Jul 16, 2013 13:35:50   #
Coker Loc: Havana, IL
 
Actually, I did one of these. WE had to use a lift to get the photographer up in the air. If you are not above the 1000 subjects, you will never see them all. Today, I realize I could have done a whole lot better. Even light was a problem. Hope this give you something to think about.



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Jul 16, 2013 15:49:29   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
You do need a tripod that will go high--maybe higher because it is sitting on something--like the back of a pickup--then you need--for sure--a cable release--then go by Radio Shack and buy (cheap) a bull horn--don't get your self into attempting the impossible--and your communication with them is all you have to photograph--and without communication you have nothing. I would suggest a "object of interest" like some kid blowing up a balloon until it pops to get their attention. As for lenses I would first reach for a 50mm 1.8--or 2 if you have one. With wider if you have to. I have photographed groups this large that turned out rather well--but you have got to eliminated camera shake and you certainly don't want them facing into the sun--so figure out a way to shade your camera so you don't get flair. Shoot at about f8 iso 200--Sams club has very reasonably priced 20x30's but you must--repeat must--color balance in Photoshop (or equivalent) first--also Photoshop "smart sharpen" at about 1 at 50%, and in Bridge push the clarity slider quite a ways to the right.
Stan

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Jul 16, 2013 16:41:18   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
We Have Done Shots Like This In A Corporate Parking lot.We Rented A Cherry Picker,Why? Because To See Everyones Face You Need To be up High. And The Cherry Picker Has Wheels To Get Back Farther.Hope his Helps JP

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Jul 16, 2013 16:45:00   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
Not Bad But This Also This Brings Up Lighting And The time Of Day To Illuminate Everyone Well. Shade Or The Sun coming From Behind At A low Angle Would Be My Choice. But I've Seen Equal As good With Low Angle Direct.

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Jul 16, 2013 20:24:49   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
In the old days they used large format Kodak panoram cameras for this. - Today, cost is no object, I would use a Sony A99 and I would do an in camera sweep panoram with about a 28mm lens in the portrait format position from a high camera position on a cloudy day outside.

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Jul 16, 2013 21:17:03   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
dasloaf wrote:
I was asked if I could take a family reunion group photo, between 900-1500 people in the picture. I have a canon 7d, what type of lens would you use for something like this.


I have the perfect solution for you. If there are say, one thousand of them, take a portrait shot of each one then distribute nine hundred and ninety nine photos appropriately to each family member. See, easy!

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Jul 16, 2013 21:22:45   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I once did a Boy Scout Jamboree group shot of over 480 scouts. I shot it from the roof of the camps lodge with a Pentax 645 and a 35mm lens, was barely able to get them all in, but at least you could see all their faces on the 30" x 40" print, and all were easily identifiable too. A crop sensor is hardly the right tool for this job.


A great lens on a great camera !

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Jul 16, 2013 21:30:54   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
winterrose wrote:
I have the perfect solution for you. If there are say, one thousand of them, take a portrait shot of each one then distribute nine hundred and ninety nine photos appropriately to each family member. See, easy!


Just adding to that, each family member can then make a nice collage, on the wall in the hallway, the bedroom ceiling so they can think of family before going to sleep or on the garage roof to show off their blessings to passengers in low flying aircraft. Another advantage with that would be that if someone really can't stand pesky little Johnny, always running around and screaming, disrupting serious talk at dinner parties, or Auntie Maude with the bad wig and always talking too much, or silly old Pops with the bad breath and forever complaining about his gammy leg injured in "the big conflict", they can always tear up the photograph of him/her/him and chuck it in the bin.

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Jul 17, 2013 01:03:24   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Canon EF-s 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 USM

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Jul 17, 2013 04:40:19   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
With what equipment I have, it would be the 5x4 Sinar.
A. for the large neg size'
B. For the tilt movement to give me enough rows of people in sharp focus.
C. And all the luck in the world that the people would co-operate.

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Jul 18, 2013 21:58:31   #
dasloaf
 
I think the best answer was to have the people hire a person who can do it. Thanks for your help in this matter!

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Jul 25, 2013 11:31:43   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I hate reviving old threads but the Strobist website has a new article on this: "Lighting and shooting a 1,300 person group shot" for those who are really interested.
Lighting and shooting a 1,300 person group shot.
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2013/07/qa-lighting-1300-person-group-shot.html
Unfortunately, there is no example photo.



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The absolute bare minimum that MIGHT make it work (but probably not) is:

1. A good (FF 35mm) camera and a sharp 50 and 35 to go on it. D800 and 45TS being pretty ideal here.

2. Four Paul Buff Einstein e640s or equivalent. (Actually, make it five.) That's a sketchy minimum. More power would be better. If you can source only one Big Gun, like a Profoto 2400, you'll want that as your key light and support it with e640s, maybe. Also, you could gang 640s for the key. That's the 5th flash I am suggesting. Getting ugly fast here.

3. Stands and standard reflectors for each. Or maybe 11" high-output reflectors as seen below.

4. A 30-degree grid or two for feathering control. But they eat light. Oh crap.

5. Power for the e640s (VMLs or long AC cords and known locations of power outlets.)

6. A remote or a short sync cord. Both is safer.

7. Two assistants.

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