Zimmerman Verdict a Racial Setback?
Jul 14, 2013 09:27:07 #
Watching Fox coverage and MSNBC coverage was like two different worlds. Rivera at Fox took the stand that this case never should have come to trial while the four females that I saw on MSNBC were sad and felt that it was a racial setback. Ok, I guess I saw the justice system at work. How in the world could it be seen as a racial setback? Could somebody for the opposite viewpoint enlighten me?
Jul 14, 2013 09:39:59 #
donrent
Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
Those who feel that the outcome verdic was a racial setback are the ones who are racist !
The prosicution had no case !
The prosicution had no case !
Jul 14, 2013 09:55:14 #
donrent wrote:
Those who feel that the outcome verdic was a racial setback are the ones who are racist !
The prosicution had no case !
The prosicution had no case !
Don....That's the way it seems to me, but I have yet to see one black person see it that way and many liberals. I'm wondering if there is some logic at work that I am not understanding. From what I hear, because Zimmerman made the bad judgment of getting out of his car and approaching Martin, he must be guilty. The thought is that if Zimmerman had never approached Martin, Martin never would have died, therefore Zimmerman is at fault. People do not seem to want to place any responsibility on Martin's shoulders.
Jul 14, 2013 10:15:05 #
I'm going to shock you Steve and agree that the Prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman was guilty.
I however wonder just what Zimmerman won. He certainly won the criminal case but now he'll be facing a civil suit that will take whatever assets, both present and future that he has.
He will no longer be able to live a public life and will have to relocate somewhere and "get lost".
There were no winners in this case. Not the justice system, not Martin and not Zimmerman.
I however wonder just what Zimmerman won. He certainly won the criminal case but now he'll be facing a civil suit that will take whatever assets, both present and future that he has.
He will no longer be able to live a public life and will have to relocate somewhere and "get lost".
There were no winners in this case. Not the justice system, not Martin and not Zimmerman.
Jul 14, 2013 11:25:50 #
Frank T wrote:
I'm going to shock you Steve and agree that the Pr... (show quote)
Frank....Thanks for your honest appraisal. I agree with you. There were no winners here, and Zimmerman was def. guilty of bad judgment on two counts. #1, approaching TM in the first place and #2, carrying a firearm which as I understand the neighborhood watch was not supposed to do. Perhaps, if he hadn't had the firearm he wouldn't have approached him. These bad judgments led to the confrontation that resulted in TM's death. Because of them, Zimmerman must carry blame, but Martin's actions ultimately ignited the situation to the lethal point, which is why GZ was found not guilty. I still wonder if TM had backed off at some point if GZ would have drawn his gun. Considering all this, I don't know what kind of fault a civil court would assign to Zimmerman. That will be interesting.
Jul 14, 2013 11:41:37 #
SteveR wrote:
Don....That's the way it seems to me, but I have y... (show quote)
We were not there or in the court, so we don't know the facts. But, I do not recall ever hearing that Zimmerman approached Martin. He was watching him and standing by his truck. Then Martin attacked Zimmerman. Like I said, I don't know, none of us do.
The real problem here having to do with racism is the ones who want Zimmerman guilty simply because Martin was black. Those are the real racists!
Jul 14, 2013 12:14:04 #
SteveR wrote:
Watching Fox coverage and MSNBC coverage was like two different worlds. Rivera at Fox took the stand that this case never should have come to trial while the four females that I saw on MSNBC were sad and felt that it was a racial setback. Ok, I guess I saw the justice system at work. How in the world could it be seen as a racial setback? Could somebody for the opposite viewpoint enlighten me?
Unfortunately, interracial violence is a common occurrence in this country. I see this as nothing but a court case about violence between two Americans. Why it was ever unnccesarily blown to this proportion by a desperate media is beyond me.
Jul 14, 2013 12:33:30 #
Oh but I think the judicial system did work and win. It showed that outside forces, with an agenda, could not influence the administration of a fair trial nor the verdict concluded by the accused peers.
Jul 14, 2013 12:48:17 #
BillHill
Loc: Saint Augustine, Fl
Some event had to take the attention away from the problems in the administration in DC
Jul 14, 2013 13:40:06 #
Frank T wrote:
I however wonder just what Zimmerman won. He certainly won the criminal case but now he'll be facing a civil suit that will take whatever assets, both present and future that he has.
It is debatable at this time as to whether Zimmerman can be sued in a civil court in Florida. As for taking away his assets, both present and future, you assume he would lose the civil case and I am not sure what assets he has or what could be taken.
What did Zimmerman win? Perhaps his life, and certainly freedom from prison (unless there is a federal civil rights case and conviction). 8-)
Jul 14, 2013 13:41:48 #
Ambrose wrote:
Why it was ever unnccesarily blown to this proportion by a desperate media is beyond me.
Ratings. :|
Jul 15, 2013 06:21:12 #
The 6 women did their job, and, luckily for them, they were sequestered so they didn't have to put up with all of the political and racist crap. Truly sad that a young man is dead, but worse is the out flow of racist bigotry.
Jul 15, 2013 09:09:53 #
Interesting case. Things were neatly turned upside down. It was the trial of Trayvon Martin (now deceased) instead of George Zimmerman (now celebrating). Do you really think a George Zimmerman with a concealed weapon is a good candidate for neighborhood watch volunteer?
Jul 15, 2013 09:27:11 #
The NAACP, J. Jackson and A. Sharpton have been comparing this trial and verdict to that of the two black civil rights members murdered in MS back in the 1960s. Forget that the NAACP et. al. are resurrecting a 50 year-old case in a different time and place, perhaps they should resurrect the OJ murder trial in the 1990s instead. The "we was robbed" mentality has no place in the US of today or tomorrow.
IMHO, the jury selection for the Zimmerman trial was the best available at the time of jury selection.
Honestly, how many of us -- me included, have tried to get out of jury duty when we received the letter ? Perhaps, if we want a better justice system, we shouldn't try to get out of the call.
IMHO, the jury selection for the Zimmerman trial was the best available at the time of jury selection.
Honestly, how many of us -- me included, have tried to get out of jury duty when we received the letter ? Perhaps, if we want a better justice system, we shouldn't try to get out of the call.
Jul 15, 2013 09:55:01 #
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