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Jul 11, 2013 17:37:59   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
Has Obama quit appointing "Czars"? I wonder if someone finally got to him and convinced him that "czar" has a decidedly negative connotation for some people?

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Jul 11, 2013 17:55:30   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
Ron K. wrote:
Has Obama quit appointing "Czars"? I wonder if someone finally got to him and convinced him that "czar" has a decidedly negative connotation for some people?

Not to defend anybody but I like facts to be correct.....that appellation was first instituted under some previous Pres ....!

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Jul 11, 2013 17:57:45   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
But not in the volume of such appointments.
TucsonCoyote wrote:
Not to defend anybody but I like facts to be correct.....that appellation was first instituted under some previous Pres ....!

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Jul 11, 2013 23:17:36   #
tlbuljac Loc: Oklahoma
 
as stupid as he is, he would need a teleprompter and three secret service men to understand it
Ron K. wrote:
Has Obama quit appointing "Czars"? I wonder if someone finally got to him and convinced him that "czar" has a decidedly negative connotation for some people?

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Jul 12, 2013 09:36:56   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Look it up wrong!


Ron K. wrote:
But not in the volume of such appointments.

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Jul 12, 2013 12:05:19   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Nothing new :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

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Jul 12, 2013 12:46:49   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 


Nothing new?? 39 "Czars" since 2009? Nothing new doesn't make it right. He still has three more years to achieve an all-time high.

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Jul 12, 2013 12:52:25   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Ron K. wrote:
Nothing new?? 39 "Czars" since 2009? Nothing new doesn't make it right. He still has three more years to achieve an all-time high.


Why didn't you make an issue of it when Bush appointed 33 new "czars" ?

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Jul 12, 2013 12:54:59   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
KW Conch wrote:
Why didn't you make an issue of it when Bush appointed 33 new "czars" ?


I did back then but 39 is till higher than 33 - and still counting. Why noy call them secretaries, or overlords? Why czars?

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Jul 12, 2013 13:03:17   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Ron K. wrote:
I did back then but 39 is till higher than 33 - and still counting. Why noy call them secretaries, or overlords? Why czars?


They used to be called Presidential Advisers until the conservatives decided to change the name after Obama was elected.

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Jul 12, 2013 13:10:34   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
Conservatives? How so?

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Jul 12, 2013 13:21:52   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Ron K. wrote:
Conservatives? How so?


Because it is a pejorative term and was never used until Obama was elected. Fox, Beck, Limbaugh, all started calling the advisers czars.

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Jul 12, 2013 14:00:44   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
KW Conch wrote:
Because it is a pejorative term and was never used until Obama was elected. Fox, Beck, Limbaugh, all started calling the advisers czars.


I ask a question on semantics and get a political discourse in return. I know where this is goig. Ciao!

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Jul 12, 2013 15:32:29   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
Ron K. wrote:
I did back then but 39 is till higher than 33 - and still counting. Why not call them secretaries, or overlords? Why czars?

Overlords??! ....Czar is bad enough!
Pelosi would love to be Queen one day! lol
Hillary would like that too if she gets to the top, but I think we should call her no more than "HWWIC".

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Jul 12, 2013 18:37:20   #
Ambrose Loc: North America
 
Ron K. wrote:
Has Obama quit appointing "Czars"? I wonder if someone finally got to him and convinced him that "czar" has a decidedly negative connotation for some people?


There have never been any U.S. government offices with the title "czar". The habit of using "czar" started with Roosevelt, but the real heyday of the czar started with W. BushÂ’s administration. Both sides of the media are at fault for pushing the term - specifically NPR with Bush and Fox, Rush, et al. for Obama.

"czar" was picked up to shorten long complicated titles. Yeah, it was a stupid choice - I agree. But look who's running the media.

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