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Jul 6, 2013 06:21:26   #
braindamage Loc: Appley Bridge, Lancs, U.K.
 
Please read entire story, we should be very, very upset about this!



And to think that Fox News was the only channel that reported this.

They may be "politically incorrect" at times, but at least they had the courage to report it.



Muslims are all getting very "brave" now. Read Tedd Petruna's story below.

Can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct (I.e.,lacking in courage)

That they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims?



Unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.



Tedd Petruna is a diver at the NBL (Neutral Buoyancy Lab) facility at NASA Houston .

Tedd happened to be on the AirTran Flight 297, from Atlanta to Houston .

Here's his report :

"One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, the 17th, I returned home.

If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb about where an Air Tran flight was canceled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before take- off..



The story was only on Fox News. That was NOT what really happened.



I was seated in 1st class coming home. Eleven Muslim men got on the plane in full Muslim attire.

Two of them sat in 1st class and the rest seated themselves throughout the plane, in coach class,

All the way to the back. As the plane taxied out to the runway,

The stewardesses gave the safety spiel that we are all so familiar with.

At that time, one of the men in 1st class, got on his cell and called one of his companions back in coach.

He proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very, very aggressively.

This activity took the 1st stewardess out of action for she repeatedly told the man

That cell phones were not permitted at that time. He ignored her as if she were not there.

The man, who answered the phone back in the coach section,

Did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. Further back in the plane,

At the same time, two younger Muslims, one in the back on the aisle,

And one sitting in front of him by the window,

Began to show footage of a porno video they had taped the night before.

They were very loud about it.

The 3rd stewardess informed the two men that they were not to have any electronic devices

On at this time. One of the men said "shut up infidel dog!"

The stewardess attempted to take the camcorder and the Muslim began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all eleven of the men got up and started to walk throughout the cabin.

I guess that because of the noise, the flight crew must have decided that there was something amiss

And changed the plane's directions to head back to the terminal.

The commotion and noise was reaching a feverish pitch,

And at this point I had had enough!

I got up and started towards the back of 1st class when I heard a voice behind me

From another Texan twice my size, say, "I got your back."

Then I grabbed the man, who had been on the cell phone, by the arm and said,

"You WILL sit down in your seat or you WILL be thrown from this plane!"

As I "led" him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck

And his waist and headed him back to his seat. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said,

"You WILL do the same!"

He protested loudly, but my adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go also.

Just as I escorted him forward, the plane stopped,

The doors opened and three TSA agents and four police officers entered the cabin.

Myself and my new Texas friend were told to cease and desist for they had the situation under control.

I was quite happy to oblige, actually.

There was still some sort of commotion in the back, but within moments,

All eleven Muslim men were escorted off the plane.

The TSA agents then had their luggage unloaded.

We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened.

Then suddenly, the door opened again and in walked all eleven Muslim men!

Stone faced, eyes front and robotic, (the only way I can describe it) and they were reseated.

The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw the men,

She was having NONE of it! Since I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal.

She told the TSA agents that there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with the Muslim men.

The agent told her that they had searched the men and were going through their luggage

with a fine tooth comb. However, nothing had been found and that the men were allowed to proceed on to Houston .

The captain and co-captain came out of the cockpit and told the agent,

"We and our crew will not fly this plane!"

After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane.

Five minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.

Again, this was where I had had enough! I got up and asked the TSA agent,"What the hell is going on?

I was told to take my seat. The airlines and TSA were sorry for the delay and we would be home shortly.

I said, "I'm getting off this plane".

The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off.

Now I'm really mad! I said, "I am a grown man who bought this ticket,

whose time is mine, with a family at home, and I am going through that door,

or I'm going through that door with you under my arm, but I AM going through that door!"

And then I heard a voice behind me say, "So am I!"

Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same thing.

Within two minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met by more TSA agents,

who asked me to write a statement about the incident.

I had five hours to kill at this point waiting for the next flight to Houston ,

so why the hell not give them my statement. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight,

it was canceled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6 PM, but I finally got there at 12:30 AM.

If you don't believe this, look up the date and then Flight 297 from Atlanta to Houston .

If this wasn't a terrorism dry run, I don't know what is.

The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it,

and how the passengers would handle it.

I'm telling this to you because I want you to know.

The threat IS real. I saw it with my own eyes."

Tedd Petruna

*******************************************

I suggest you keep this going

until this incident reaches the email of all POLITICIANS and the news media!



PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS TYPE OF EMAIL, REFUSE TO PASS IT ON, OR SIMPLY DON'T CARE

ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE THAT DO CARE CAN'T MAKE ANY HEADWAY..



THE THREATS ARE REAL.

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Jul 6, 2013 06:42:01   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
we might take the time to look at these circumstances from a variety of viewpoints.
The situation described above has been refuted by crew and other passengers.

What I see is some hyper sensitivity of one passenger and perhaps some degree embellishment in the story.

point by point differences are noted by Snopes

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Jul 6, 2013 06:54:39   #
Cotondog Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
 
Perhaps this post should be in the general chit chat section rather than in the main photography discussion.

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Jul 6, 2013 07:11:06   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
we might take the time to look at these circumstances from a variety of viewpoints.
The situation described above has been refuted by crew and other passengers.

What I see is some hyper sensitivity of one passenger and perhaps some degree embellishment in the story.

point by point differences are noted by Snopes

The Snopes coverage of this urban legend pretty well debunks it.

It does not really belong on this forum at all, even in General Chit-Chat.

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Jul 6, 2013 07:35:08   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
To the moderator of this section of Hedgehog ... PLEASE REMOVE THIS from the site. The internet is being used to spread both knowledge and hatred, I leave it to you to decide which this is. BTW ... what ever happened, it happened in 2009!

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Jul 6, 2013 07:46:14   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
braindamage wrote:
Please read entire story, we should be very, very upset about this!



And to think that Fox News was the only channel that reported this.

They may be "politically incorrect" at times, but at least they had the courage to report it.



Muslims are all getting very "brave" now. Read Tedd Petruna's story below.

Can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct (I.e.,lacking in courage)

That they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims?



Unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.



Tedd Petruna is a diver at the NBL (Neutral Buoyancy Lab) facility at NASA Houston .

Tedd happened to be on the AirTran Flight 297, from Atlanta to Houston .

Here's his report :

"One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, the 17th, I returned home.

If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb about where an Air Tran flight was canceled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before take- off..



The story was only on Fox News. That was NOT what really happened.



I was seated in 1st class coming home. Eleven Muslim men got on the plane in full Muslim attire.

Two of them sat in 1st class and the rest seated themselves throughout the plane, in coach class,

All the way to the back. As the plane taxied out to the runway,

The stewardesses gave the safety spiel that we are all so familiar with.

At that time, one of the men in 1st class, got on his cell and called one of his companions back in coach.

He proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very, very aggressively.

This activity took the 1st stewardess out of action for she repeatedly told the man

That cell phones were not permitted at that time. He ignored her as if she were not there.

The man, who answered the phone back in the coach section,

Did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. Further back in the plane,

At the same time, two younger Muslims, one in the back on the aisle,

And one sitting in front of him by the window,

Began to show footage of a porno video they had taped the night before.

They were very loud about it.

The 3rd stewardess informed the two men that they were not to have any electronic devices

On at this time. One of the men said "shut up infidel dog!"

The stewardess attempted to take the camcorder and the Muslim began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all eleven of the men got up and started to walk throughout the cabin.

I guess that because of the noise, the flight crew must have decided that there was something amiss

And changed the plane's directions to head back to the terminal.

The commotion and noise was reaching a feverish pitch,

And at this point I had had enough!

I got up and started towards the back of 1st class when I heard a voice behind me

From another Texan twice my size, say, "I got your back."

Then I grabbed the man, who had been on the cell phone, by the arm and said,

"You WILL sit down in your seat or you WILL be thrown from this plane!"

As I "led" him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck

And his waist and headed him back to his seat. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said,

"You WILL do the same!"

He protested loudly, but my adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go also.

Just as I escorted him forward, the plane stopped,

The doors opened and three TSA agents and four police officers entered the cabin.

Myself and my new Texas friend were told to cease and desist for they had the situation under control.

I was quite happy to oblige, actually.

There was still some sort of commotion in the back, but within moments,

All eleven Muslim men were escorted off the plane.

The TSA agents then had their luggage unloaded.

We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened.

Then suddenly, the door opened again and in walked all eleven Muslim men!

Stone faced, eyes front and robotic, (the only way I can describe it) and they were reseated.

The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw the men,

She was having NONE of it! Since I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal.

She told the TSA agents that there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with the Muslim men.

The agent told her that they had searched the men and were going through their luggage

with a fine tooth comb. However, nothing had been found and that the men were allowed to proceed on to Houston .

The captain and co-captain came out of the cockpit and told the agent,

"We and our crew will not fly this plane!"

After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane.

Five minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.

Again, this was where I had had enough! I got up and asked the TSA agent,"What the hell is going on?

I was told to take my seat. The airlines and TSA were sorry for the delay and we would be home shortly.

I said, "I'm getting off this plane".

The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off.

Now I'm really mad! I said, "I am a grown man who bought this ticket,

whose time is mine, with a family at home, and I am going through that door,

or I'm going through that door with you under my arm, but I AM going through that door!"

And then I heard a voice behind me say, "So am I!"

Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same thing.

Within two minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met by more TSA agents,

who asked me to write a statement about the incident.

I had five hours to kill at this point waiting for the next flight to Houston ,

so why the hell not give them my statement. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight,

it was canceled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6 PM, but I finally got there at 12:30 AM.

If you don't believe this, look up the date and then Flight 297 from Atlanta to Houston .

If this wasn't a terrorism dry run, I don't know what is.

The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it,

and how the passengers would handle it.

I'm telling this to you because I want you to know.

The threat IS real. I saw it with my own eyes."

Tedd Petruna

*******************************************

I suggest you keep this going

until this incident reaches the email of all POLITICIANS and the news media!



PEOPLE THAT DELETE THIS TYPE OF EMAIL, REFUSE TO PASS IT ON, OR SIMPLY DON'T CARE

ARE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE THAT DO CARE CAN'T MAKE ANY HEADWAY..



THE THREATS ARE REAL.
Please read entire story, we should be very, very ... (show quote)


:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: In all my years of aviation I never knew of an airline that could summon a new crew in "five Minutes". This is a nice, incendiary bit of gossip. More than likely this is just that, a story that resounds with falsehoods.

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Jul 6, 2013 07:49:14   #
Quickflash Loc: Loganville, Ga
 
Some people confuse Fox News as being an actual news source.

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Jul 6, 2013 07:55:11   #
Coker Loc: Havana, IL
 
I come to this site to get AWAY from Fox new. Thanks for nothing! Why would I read something that say, "This is going to piss you off!!!"

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Jul 6, 2013 08:00:49   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
This story is blatantly false-- The OP should be ashamed. Tedd Petruna was never on this flight. This is nothing more than an urban myth and has been debunked as false. The woman directly behind A SINGLE man states that it was a camera-- NOT a cell phone. FOX news has zero credibility as a "news" source.

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Jul 6, 2013 10:06:53   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Quickflash wrote:
Some people confuse Fox News as being an actual news source.


This had nothing to do with Fox News. You are no different than the person who posted this thrash. Both of you want to stir sh*t...

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Jul 6, 2013 10:08:09   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Coker wrote:
I come to this site to get AWAY from Fox new. Thanks for nothing! Why would I read something that say, "This is going to piss you off!!!"


But yet, you did.

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Jul 6, 2013 10:11:32   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
This story is blatantly false-- The OP should be ashamed. Tedd Petruna was never on this flight. This is nothing more than an urban myth and has been debunked as false. The woman directly behind A SINGLE man states that it was a camera-- NOT a cell phone. FOX news has zero credibility as a "news" source.


This is strange, the story is false yet you are correcting a story as if it were true. I would say that you have zero credibility.

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Jul 6, 2013 11:47:29   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Quickflash wrote:
Some people confuse Fox News as being an actual news source.

LoneRangeFinder wrote:
FOX news has zero credibility as a "news" source.


The initial story was released by the Associated Press, a more detailed article was published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. What actually happened on the flight is disputed by the various witnesses.

It is rather ironic that folks jump on the OP for posting a false story yet then assume it was Fox News based on the same posted story.

Anyway, for those who wish to read Snopes' assessment of the event, here it is: Flight 297

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp

Have fun. :)

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Jul 6, 2013 11:52:55   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
This story is blatantly false-- The OP should be ashamed. Tedd Petruna was never on this flight. This is nothing more than an urban myth and has been debunked as false. The woman directly behind A SINGLE man states that it was a camera-- NOT a cell phone. FOX news has zero credibility as a "news" source.

Actually, Petruna claims he was on the flight. This is not an urban myth debunked as false, at least not by Snopes. They rate it a mixture of fact and fiction. The incident did happen, the details are in dispute. The man was with a group, he was not alone. 8-)

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