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Jul 5, 2013 15:41:22   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
selmslie wrote:
I may go back almost as far but have not have had as much experience as you describe so eloquently.

However I did start with film, moved on to digital and happily returned to film once more. I plan to travel to Europe in a couple of months with only an M6 and a Zeiss Ikon. It's going to be a lot more fun than taking my heavy DSLRs and zoom lenses.

Film has not been asleep. There are better films available today than ten or twenty years ago. I hope you have hung on to some of you film stuff just for the fun of it.

And no, only a museum might collect old DSLRs. They won't be worth anything because there are too many of them.
I may go back almost as far but have not have had ... (show quote)


Hi Selmslie, The trip to Europe sounds like it will be an interesting experience.
Have to admit I wouldnt even consider taking a film camera on holiday now.
The only stuff I still have from back then is what I showed in the photo's plus a bit of old Nikon
stuff. Just like today, I had to 'upgrade'...
I ended my career in the Business using Nikon SLR's. I switched mainly because
I thought they were going to be better and the Sales Rep that called on me every 6 months
or so was a very good salesman. I remember him saying that many local pro's were switching from
Rangefinder to TTL focusing and exposure.
Still have a couple of old Nikkor lenses but cant remember the model numbers of the cameras.
Thanks for your comment.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 15:43:15   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
Shakey wrote:
Oh! The Mamiya Press. What a camera! Mine had a 6X9 back and I used it for color trannies. Placed them with a long gone agency for extra dough. Like you I had to sell eventually. Happy days.


Would have been good to know then, what we know now aye?
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 15:44:12   #
DavidT Loc: Maryland
 
You have quite a Leica collection. It's a shame to have it just sitting around. You do realize that with the new micro 4/3rds cameras (e.g., Olympus OM-D E-M5, Panasonic GX1) you can get an adapter and use all those beautiful Leica M lenses again with today's technology.

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Jul 5, 2013 15:50:40   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
I just had a Yashica Mat 124 and many Minolta SRT's 100 - 202. Seemed like every Wedding I did someone had a better camera. I's the same today. Would have to buy two or three cameras every year to keep up. Anyway it was fun to think back. - Dave


I never had a Yashica or Minolta but of course remember the names now you mention them.
Funnily enough, I dont recall ever having to keep up with others too much back in those days.
Very few amateurs seemed to bring their own cameras, but of course I was only doing the Formals
and we usually went off, well away from the guests, to do the shoot. Either back to the Studio or to
the Botanical Gardens.
Most of my other work was either in Industrial or Office settings or in the Studio.
Appreciate your input Dave. Thanks for the comment.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 15:54:45   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Attic storage doesn't play well with the older gear...Hope they are still in decent condition....My older gear is stored in a bedroom that was converted to an "office" when the kids moved out...Climate controlled inside the house makes for better chances they still work right...


Hi Scott, yes, though we dont have climate control.
Have to admit my only attempts at keeping them okay is I pack them with those bags of absorbent
stuff then wrap in bubble wrap and bag in ziplock bags.
Been quite a few years since they were unpacked but they look pretty good still.
The lenses screw into little plastic containers that seem quite airtight still.
Thanks for the advice.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 16:14:57   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
Kingmapix wrote:
Love it. I have my memories up in the closet with a Nikon S-1 and a 50mm f/1.4 lens given to me in the 1960. Every once in a while I take it down and marvel over the structure of the camera and feel in my hands. These were golden days in photography.
Kodachrome 25 slide film was the king. And those stored slides endure to this day. May Kodak rest in peace.

I see that Fuji has a camera out that echos days gone past.
Look at the Fujifilm X100S. This camera emulates the retro
cameras that we grew up with. Sort of like bringing back an old friend, also a camera system that gives quality results.
Love it. I have my memories up in the closet with... (show quote)


Thanks for the reminder mate. I do recall the S1. I resisted buying one
(well didnt have the money actually as I was just starting out).
As I get more comfortable with Digital have to admit I have no desire to go back to the
old film days.
Think I have become a victim of 'instant gratification'.
Your mention of Kodachrome (echoes of Simon and Garfunkel ringing in my ears),
does remind me of the films we used tho.
At one early stage I remember my employer buying a whole lot of 35mm B & W movie film from
the National Film Unit here and chopping it up into lengths to fit our canisters.
This would have been to use for Candids.
Our films back then, if memory serves me, were Ilford Pan F (50ASA B&W) for high quality stuff.
Ilford HP4 I think was 400ASA that we could push higher with a special developer soup.
Outdoor colour we usually used Kodak (had good blues and greens) and Portraits was the warmer Agfa film.
I cant recall using Kodachrome but do rememebr we used Ektachrome for something.
(of course used Kodachrome for personal stuff for many years and like you have
boxes of Slides somewhere).Then there was Velvia. That was a beautiful film but from memory
was very expensive.
Film was our biggest overhead in those days and every colour shot had to count.
I remember being chastised if I shot a group of 10 -12 and the shot was ruined if one person
had their eyes shut or if I was even a smidgeon out of focus.
We had to be very conscious, back then, of attention to detail.

Havent really thought of this stuff for many years, till now.
Thanks for your input and getting my grey cells some more exercise.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 16:17:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
TonyP wrote:
Having hung around UHH for awhile now, I know there are many here that go back way
further than I do in their life with photography, and the gear they have owned and the
experiences they have had.
50 years ago I would never have imagined my life today.
(wonder if our digital cameras will ever appreciate in value??)

Nice story and nice pictures. :thumbup:

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Jul 5, 2013 16:17:55   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
mel wrote:
Oh! I don't remember all the cameras that I had except for two of them, a twin lens reflex Mamiya and a Rollie. I used to buy bulk film and load my spools in a changing bag. I can even go back to the days of gas light paper. Do any of you remember that? What's that ringing in my ears, must be my hearing aid batteries.


Hi Me, you have got me there with the 'gas light paper' comment.
Will ask my 103 year old mother-in-law about that one.
Appreciate the comment.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 16:37:09   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
DavidT wrote:
You have quite a Leica collection. It's a shame to have it just sitting around. You do realize that with the new micro 4/3rds cameras (e.g., Olympus OM-D E-M5, Panasonic GX1) you can get an adapter and use all those beautiful Leica M lenses again with today's technology.


No, didnt know that David.
Thanks for the advice.
Am pretty committed dollar wise to Nikon now and as we are retired (on the Pension), dont
think we could afford me to buy any more gear.
Good thought tho and will bear it in mind if any of the grandchildren start showing an interest.
Cheers

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Jul 5, 2013 16:44:04   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Nice story and nice pictures. :thumbup:


Thanks Jerry. Appreciate your comment.
The pics were taken rather hastily without any thought on composition or lighting as
I had to get them away by email to our Insurance Broker.
It was a later thought to post them here and after doing so cringed at how they looked
to an audience of my peers.
Likewise, my wandering commentary.
I tend to use ten words when one will do.
Friends reckon I suffer from verbal diarrhea at times :)

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Jul 6, 2013 06:09:53   #
jazz7 Loc: Toronto
 
DavidT wrote:
You have quite a Leica collection. It's a shame to have it just sitting around. You do realize that with the new micro 4/3rds cameras (e.g., Olympus OM-D E-M5, Panasonic GX1) you can get an adapter and use all those beautiful Leica M lenses again with today's technology.


I had a Leica M6 Titanium, loved it, but had to sell, unfortunately. That was bad enough, but also sold my Leica lenses, 21mm - 28mm - 50mm - 90mm and 135mm. What those lenses cost now boggles my mind, I regret having to sell, yes regret big time especially as I now use an Olympus OMD EM-5 (drowning in my tears!). Enjoyed reading the original post, so eloquent and brought back memories of many happy hours spent in the darkroom :-) Thank you.

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Jul 6, 2013 06:32:41   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Nice shot of your Leica collection...I would/will drool over it. I could only afford the 111c when I started my own business. The f/2 Summar, was soon replaced with the sharper f/2 Summitar, and that , along with the 9cm Elmar, covered most jobs, till I added a 28mm Hektor and 135 Elmar. Still got them all, and give them an outing every now and again. Nikon , and Hasselblad took over most of the commercial work in recent years. But Leicas are still a joy to use when there is no pressure of time /dead-line constraints. Gaslight paper is what I used for contact prints, Bromesko for the enlargements. Ahhhhh
Nostalgia......Not what it used to be...

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Jul 6, 2013 07:32:34   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I had the Leica M2, M3 and M4 with all the equipment in your pictures. This brought back so many memories of taking photographs with them from 1964 through 1980 before I sold them and went into the medium format with Mamiya RB67. Thanks for the memories.

TonyP wrote:
Having hung around UHH for awhile now, I know there are many here that go back way
further than I do in their life with photography, and the gear they have owned and the
experiences they have had.
50 years ago I would never have imagined my life today.
The pleasure of now sitting in front of my computer with a cup of tea (cigarette in the ashtray),
sunlight streaming through the blinds and a carpet on the floor.
Leisurely editing the days images.

If this was 50 years ago, today I would be standing on bare boards in a dimly lit 'darkroom'.
The smell of chemicals wafting around me.
Definitely no smoking and panicking that the negs weren't overcooking and the boss wasnt
going to walk in and 'interfere'.
I was about 3 months into my 'apprenticeship' which meant I hadnt been allowed to do
anything, other than do what I was told in the Darkroom and carry equipment around on jobs
and get blamed if the flash units werent fully charged or I hadnt loaded the film backs properly.
Looking back, Im sure he was a really nice guy, a little bloke, had very fair, thinning hair I recall
and always seemed calm, never appeared nervous, always took charge of whatever the job entailed.
Weekends was weddings and we could be rushing around doing 3-4 weddings every Saturday.
(he had 'casuals' who did the candids etc at the Wedding Breakfast).
He only did the 'Formals'.
Weekdays was mainly the Darkroom for quite awhile but eventually I went out and learned
how to photograph (and Light) everything from Factorys to Boardroom Portraits.

By 5 oclock we would be back at the Studio, me sent to the Darkroom to start Developing
while he would wait in reception and be organising the Casuals who would be working the
Candids and also Balls if it was Ball season.

I lasted about 4 years of my 'apprenticeship' and then took the plunge and went out on my own.
With a bit of mentoring from both my ex employer and another equally busy Photographer,
I did pretty well.
One of them gave me a Leica and I never had the heart to tell him that I was paying one off
along with a couple of lenses.
One of them gave me a whole set of lights when he upgraded his Studio and I inherited 4 or 5
(Meta?? something) Blitz flash units with over the shoulder battery packs.

So where did all this come from and where am I going?

My wife and I had to inventory a whole lot of stuff for our insurance recently and I mentioned to
our Broker I had quite a bit of old gear, including old Leica cameras.
Ive got one, still loaded with film, on my bookcase in the office at home but havent touched it since
I 'went Digital'. So that meant looking for the other one and that led to unearthing other stuff
Id forgotten I still had.
Our broker said he wanted pics (as proof I suppose) so a few quick shots later it was all done.
Then I had to give values so sent it all off to Auckland to a Valuer. I think in todays dollars its
come back with an insurable value about 5 times what I probably paid for it.

So heres some pics.
(wonder if our digital cameras will ever appreciate in value??)
Having hung around UHH for awhile now, I know ther... (show quote)

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Jul 6, 2013 07:36:52   #
kitcar Loc: Liverpool.Merseyside. UK
 
TonyP wrote:
Hi Me, you have got me there with the 'gas light paper' comment.
Will ask my 103 year old mother-in-law about that one.
Appreciate the comment.
Cheers


Going back 70yrs (yes I'm 82 & a digi' fanatic)
My first introduction to photograpy was "gas-light paper" which involved placeing the gas-light paper under a neg' in a purpose made frame, placing the frame out doors in the sunlight, then after what could have been 1/2 an hour the image was on the paper, then washed in a "hypo" fixing bath.
It was exciting in those days. The innocence of it all.

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Jul 6, 2013 07:45:41   #
Dlevon Loc: New Jersey
 
TonyP wrote:
Having hung around UHH for awhile now, I know there are many here that go back way
further than I do in their life with photography, and the gear they have owned and the
experiences they have had.
50 years ago I would never have imagined my life today.
The pleasure of now sitting in front of my computer with a cup of tea (cigarette in the ashtray),
sunlight streaming through the blinds and a carpet on the floor.
Leisurely editing the days images.

If this was 50 years ago, today I would be standing on bare boards in a dimly lit 'darkroom'.
The smell of chemicals wafting around me.
Definitely no smoking and panicking that the negs weren't overcooking and the boss wasnt
going to walk in and 'interfere'.
I was about 3 months into my 'apprenticeship' which meant I hadnt been allowed to do
anything, other than do what I was told in the Darkroom and carry equipment around on jobs
and get blamed if the flash units werent fully charged or I hadnt loaded the film backs properly.
Looking back, Im sure he was a really nice guy, a little bloke, had very fair, thinning hair I recall
and always seemed calm, never appeared nervous, always took charge of whatever the job entailed.
Weekends was weddings and we could be rushing around doing 3-4 weddings every Saturday.
(he had 'casuals' who did the candids etc at the Wedding Breakfast).
He only did the 'Formals'.
Weekdays was mainly the Darkroom for quite awhile but eventually I went out and learned
how to photograph (and Light) everything from Factorys to Boardroom Portraits.

By 5 oclock we would be back at the Studio, me sent to the Darkroom to start Developing
while he would wait in reception and be organising the Casuals who would be working the
Candids and also Balls if it was Ball season.

I lasted about 4 years of my 'apprenticeship' and then took the plunge and went out on my own.
With a bit of mentoring from both my ex employer and another equally busy Photographer,
I did pretty well.
One of them gave me a Leica and I never had the heart to tell him that I was paying one off
along with a couple of lenses.
One of them gave me a whole set of lights when he upgraded his Studio and I inherited 4 or 5
(Meta?? something) Blitz flash units with over the shoulder battery packs.

So where did all this come from and where am I going?

My wife and I had to inventory a whole lot of stuff for our insurance recently and I mentioned to
our Broker I had quite a bit of old gear, including old Leica cameras.
Ive got one, still loaded with film, on my bookcase in the office at home but havent touched it since
I 'went Digital'. So that meant looking for the other one and that led to unearthing other stuff
Id forgotten I still had.
Our broker said he wanted pics (as proof I suppose) so a few quick shots later it was all done.
Then I had to give values so sent it all off to Auckland to a Valuer. I think in todays dollars its
come back with an insurable value about 5 times what I probably paid for it.

So heres some pics.
(wonder if our digital cameras will ever appreciate in value??)
Having hung around UHH for awhile now, I know ther... (show quote)


Great commentary! An answer to your question. No!

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