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Nov 27, 2011 00:18:02   #
forbescat
 
jerryg wrote:
My opinion. I am a pro-photographer and have produced and sold many of my photos and competed in many, many photo competitions and I am sure that 's what a photo judge would comment. Just try covering up the photo using paper and see how it changes its looks by eliminating things that would distract the eye and take it away from the beautiful bird you photographed.

Don't take offense it is corrective critcism not just criticism.


No offense because it's not my picture. It's a bit difficult to judge your judgments since you have no pictures posted and anyone can come on here and act "know it all" and claim to be anything. I don't happen to agree with you because I like THAT bird in its habitat where its colors can be emphasized.

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Nov 27, 2011 00:45:27   #
jerryg Loc: NE Pa
 
This is one of mine. This is photography. Not a bird lost in the trees.

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Nov 27, 2011 00:56:33   #
Tammyannk Loc: fort wayne IN
 
I love it

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Nov 27, 2011 01:00:54   #
jerryg Loc: NE Pa
 
Thanks

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Nov 27, 2011 01:02:52   #
pigpen
 
I see no image here

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Nov 27, 2011 01:10:23   #
kaycholewinski Loc: Farmersburg, Indiana
 
esqtree wrote:
Red Tail Hawk up the street from my house. What do you think.


LOVE it

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Nov 27, 2011 01:14:03   #
markb Loc: Illinois,USA
 
Nice composition, colors are crisp, & focus is sharp. Good job! Keep up the good work.

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Nov 27, 2011 01:31:33   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
esqtree wrote:
Red Tail Hawk up the street from my house. What do you think.


Just for grins, in editing software try blurring the background slightly to achieve a "shallow depth-of-field" effect. I think it might focus the eye's attention on the bird instead of the tangle of background that everybody is complaining about. I personally don't have any complaint about the original shot as is. I think it's exceptional and I'd expect to see something similar hanging in a doctor's office, or business office hallway, etc.

Somebody pumped up the color saturation in an edited version and a naysayer said the color didn't look natural. In reality how do we know what natural is? Were we there? No... only the shooter was there. The complainer wasn't present to see the real color of the bird and so is only comparing it to the original shot which itself may not be true. Unless the complainer has seen 100 or 1000 of these birds and knows that there are none in existence in the world that have saturated color, I think it's unfair to criticize somebody offering an edit that also looked pleasing. I can set the color saturation in my dSLR to a variety of levels from pale to vivid. We don't know how the camera was set when the original shot was taken. The camera might have not captured the actual saturated color of that specific single bird and the edited saturated color rendition might actually be the real color.

I can't believe you people are asked to critically, but constructively, review a photo for someone but then start criticizing each others' views and edits instead. It's like a pack of wolves fighting each other over a carcass or something. Chill out already...

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Nov 27, 2011 01:42:49   #
AK Dreamer Loc: Alaska & Nevada
 
marcomarks wrote:
esqtree wrote:
Red Tail Hawk up the street from my house. What do you think.


Just for grins, in editing software try blurring the background slightly to achieve a "shallow depth-of-field" effect. I think it might focus the eye's attention on the bird instead of the tangle of background that everybody is complaining about. I personally don't have any complaint about the original shot as is. I think it's exceptional and I'd expect to see something similar hanging in a doctor's office, or business office hallway, etc.

Somebody pumped up the color saturation in an edited version and a naysayer said the color didn't look natural. In reality how do we know what natural is? Were we there? No... only the shooter was there. The complainer wasn't present to see the real color of the bird and so is only comparing it to the original shot which itself may not be true. Unless the complainer has seen 100 or 1000 of these birds and knows that there are none in existence in the world that have saturated color, I think it's unfair to criticize somebody offering an edit that also looked pleasing. I can set the color saturation in my dSLR to a variety of levels from pale to vivid. We don't know how the camera was set when the original shot was taken. The camera might have not captured the actual saturated color of that specific single bird and the edited saturated color rendition might actually be the real color.

I can't believe you people are asked to critically, but constructively, review a photo for someone but then start criticizing each others' views and edits instead. It's like a pack of wolves fighting each other over a carcass or something. Chill out already...
quote=esqtree Red Tail Hawk up the street from my... (show quote)


I agree!! Quite frankly I'm getting more than a little tired of the bickering going on and believe it takes away all credibility of the respondants and does nothing to enhance this forum. I would hope it doesn't drive people away.

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Nov 27, 2011 03:33:51   #
vallabh1
 
The original was little washed out and this was a true color correction by calibrating the picture with pictures of similar birds.
Just my rendering and this picture pops compared to the original not false colors but shadows and colors were balanced in PS5. I work with print everyday to have as true to the original naked eye.

Thanks just my view point.

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Nov 27, 2011 03:36:07   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
Guess my little mind don't mean anything but please
go verticale, just to see what is,is. Bv (please)

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Nov 27, 2011 03:39:45   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
After reading Mr. Dreamer's post, I am now humbled. Bv

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Nov 27, 2011 12:58:00   #
Jambulee Loc: San Antonio del Mar,Tijuana,Mex
 
jerryg wrote:
My opinion. I am a pro-photographer and have produced and sold many of my photos and competed in many, many photo competitions and I am sure that 's what a photo judge would comment. Just try covering up the photo using paper and see how it changes its looks by eliminating things that would distract the eye and take it away from the beautiful bird you photographed.

Don't take offense it is corrective critcism not just criticism.


i agree with Jerryg-remember all animal portraiture is just that portraits. Our eyes must be drawn to the subject immediately and stay on the subject all the time. Remember why you took the photo in the first place-it wasn't the tree it was the bird. Crop tight and burn all the hot spots.

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Nov 27, 2011 17:18:21   #
sandylynn Loc: Scappoose, Oregon
 
I love this shot. She or he is absolutely beautiful. Your lighting is good and framing is great. Congrats

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Nov 28, 2011 22:47:42   #
forbescat
 
marcomarks wrote:
esqtree wrote:
Red Tail Hawk up the street from my house. What do you think.


Just for grins, in editing software try blurring the background slightly to achieve a "shallow depth-of-field" effect. I think it might focus the eye's attention on the bird instead of the tangle of background that everybody is complaining about. I personally don't have any complaint about the original shot as is. I think it's exceptional and I'd expect to see something similar hanging in a doctor's office, or business office hallway, etc.

Somebody pumped up the color saturation in an edited version and a naysayer said the color didn't look natural. In reality how do we know what natural is? Were we there? No... only the shooter was there. The complainer wasn't present to see the real color of the bird and so is only comparing it to the original shot which itself may not be true. Unless the complainer has seen 100 or 1000 of these birds and knows that there are none in existence in the world that have saturated color, I think it's unfair to criticize somebody offering an edit that also looked pleasing. I can set the color saturation in my dSLR to a variety of levels from pale to vivid. We don't know how the camera was set when the original shot was taken. The camera might have not captured the actual saturated color of that specific single bird and the edited saturated color rendition might actually be the real color.

I can't believe you people are asked to critically, but constructively, review a photo for someone but then start criticizing each others' views and edits instead. It's like a pack of wolves fighting each other over a carcass or something. Chill out already...
quote=esqtree Red Tail Hawk up the street from my... (show quote)


Since I have one of these hawks visiting on a regular basis, I have a pretty good idea of the coloration.

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