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Jul 1, 2013 17:08:21   #
Rolsen7650 Loc: San Clemente, California, USA
 
Lately I've seen some very old black and white photo's which were changed to HD.
Can anyone explain how that is done?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Bob

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Jul 1, 2013 18:20:17   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Describe what you mean by HD. What difference have you noticed from the B&W photos as they were originally?

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Jul 1, 2013 18:52:55   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Rolsen7650 wrote:
Lately I've seen some very old black and white photo's which were changed to HD.
Can anyone explain how that is done?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Bob

Are you talking about added sharpening and contrast and perhaps increased detail in shadow area? Those things can be accomplished in a number of programs, including Adobe Lightroom. There is all sorts of sophisticated digital processing around today so without knowing the specifics we can only guess. BTW, when you refer to HD, are you by any chance referring to black and white images that have been converted to color?

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Jul 1, 2013 19:17:25   #
Rolsen7650 Loc: San Clemente, California, USA
 
http://photosilke.blogspot.com/2013/03/historic-pictures-restored.html
Check the above site out. YOu will see what I'm speaking about.
Thanks,
Bob

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Jul 1, 2013 20:16:54   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I think that they are simply scans from the original negatives that are stored at the Library of Congress, with maybe some additional digital editing - sharpening, contrast adjustments and spot removal.

Calling it "HD" is a bit exaggerated, if not deceptive if used for marketing purposes. I've worked for a photographic lab that did reprints from old negatives that came from the archives from musuems and historic societies. And the prints were comparable to these examples. Lenses a century ago where often quite capable, and the negatives (often in 4x5 or 8x10 format) where able to capture plenty of detail with high resolution.

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Jul 1, 2013 20:31:52   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I think that they are simply scans from the original negatives that are stored at the Library of Congress, with maybe some additional digital editing - sharpening, contrast adjustments and spot removal.

Calling it "HD" is a bit exaggerated, if not deceptive if used for marketing purposes. I've worked for a photographic lab that did reprints from old negatives that came from the archives from musuems and historic societies. And the prints were comparable to these examples. Lenses a century ago where often quite capable, and the negatives (often in 4x5 or 8x10 format) where able to capture plenty of detail with high resolution.
I think that they are simply scans from the origin... (show quote)


Exactly what I thought. Collodion negatives are extremely sharp especially at 8x10 and 11x14

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Jul 1, 2013 21:25:51   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I think that they are simply scans from the original negatives that are stored at the Library of Congress, with maybe some additional digital editing - sharpening, contrast adjustments and spot removal.

Calling it "HD" is a bit exaggerated, if not deceptive if used for marketing purposes. I've worked for a photographic lab that did reprints from old negatives that came from the archives from musuems and historic societies. And the prints were comparable to these examples. Lenses a century ago where often quite capable, and the negatives (often in 4x5 or 8x10 format) where able to capture plenty of detail with high resolution.
I think that they are simply scans from the origin... (show quote)


Agree. They were nicely processed, but hardly HD, whatever that means with regard to photographs. And they selected optimally sharp images with good exposures to start with.

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Jul 2, 2013 07:37:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Rolsen7650 wrote:
http://photosilke.blogspot.com/2013/03/historic-pictures-restored.html
Check the above site out. YOu will see what I'm speaking about.
Thanks,
Bob

Thanks for posting this link. That's an amazing collection of photos. Times certainly have changed in 100 years. I'd like to know how the next 100 will look.

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Jul 2, 2013 08:58:01   #
bsinpgh Loc: Pittsburgh PA USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks for posting this link. That's an amazing collection of photos. Times certainly have changed in 100 years. I'd like to know how the next 100 will look.


Stick around, Jerry. Stay healthy.
BBC said this morning that all life will revert to primitive bacteria in a million (or was it billion?) years. I hope to miss that.

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Jul 2, 2013 10:33:52   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I think that they are simply scans from the original negatives that are stored at the Library of Congress, with maybe some additional digital editing - sharpening, contrast adjustments and spot removal.

Calling it "HD" is a bit exaggerated, if not deceptive if used for marketing purposes. I've worked for a photographic lab that did reprints from old negatives that came from the archives from musuems and historic societies. And the prints were comparable to these examples. Lenses a century ago where often quite capable, and the negatives (often in 4x5 or 8x10 format) where able to capture plenty of detail with high resolution.
I think that they are simply scans from the origin... (show quote)


I have been "trying" to restore some old b&w's for a family tree...some of these are over 100 years old...and the sharpness is surprising.

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Jul 2, 2013 10:40:46   #
sidney Loc: London.Eng.
 
HDR,,High definition Range. Take three photos at different
F stops and merge giving you one photo made from three photos.
Am messing with it. it's fun.

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Jul 2, 2013 10:42:31   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Those aren't HD, they're restorations to eliminate scratches, restore brightness and contrast, eliminate color casts, etc..

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Jul 2, 2013 13:22:55   #
phys406
 
This really shouldn't work, but it seems to help: In photoshop at least, go to Image Size and simply increase the number of pixels. You can't change the aspect ratio this way, but I have tried it with low resolution pix downloaded from the web and it does make them look better.

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Jul 2, 2013 14:35:42   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Rolsen7650 wrote:
http://photosilke.blogspot.com/2013/03/historic-pictures-restored.html
Check the above site out. YOu will see what I'm speaking about.
Thanks,
Bob


In my personal opinion, they've been SERIOUSLY over processed.

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Jul 2, 2013 17:59:53   #
riverlass Loc: northern California
 
Rolsen7650 wrote:
http://photosilke.blogspot.com/2013/03/historic-pictures-restored.html
Check the above site out. YOu will see what I'm speaking about.
Thanks,
Bob


Well, I for one, think they are beautiful. I don't care how they were made or processed... exaggerated or over done... or whatever folks want to argue about.
They are a photographic history of our country and it seems appropriate that you've given us a link just before the Forth of July.
This was like a celebration. These photos are the reality of America at the turn of the century. Beautiful! Thank you.

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