OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Actually I do and so do you...although you are correct regarding EULA, what I mean by owning, is, I can install a program purchased, instal it, disconnect from the internet forever should I choose to and (understanding not getting updates etc.) never have to worry if I can use it or not...nobody should be able to force an update or upgrade on something that works just fine for the individual.

russelray Loc: La Mesa CA

Actually, no you don't. Read the EULA.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Well whatever it says, which I have as much interest in reading an EULA as having hemorrhoids...I've been running a non internet computer... cabinet building software , along with two major cad programs in my woodworking shop for over 5 years... I know what I can & can't do since I've been doing it...BTW...it's all legal software AND IT'S MINE. Unless of coarse someone toting a firearm comes by and demands it back...I think I'll keep it. I have no need to upgrade it as it serves me just fine. In fact where I used to work, they are still running Autocad 2000...they too have not had the need to upgrade being they only need it for 2D work and they too are running just fine...I could give you a hundred other examples if you really want to get in to it. Not trying to be a smart ass, just stating, when I pay for something, (not rent or lease) I own it.

russelray Loc: La Mesa CA

Actually, you don't. You're not paying for the software. You're paying for the privilege of using the software. You are an "end user" and in order to get the software up and running, you have to agree to, or accept, the "end user license agreement." Once you do that, you are free to use the software in perpetuity, as long as it works. However, once you buy a new computer with an operating system on which the software you are licensed to use no longer works, there is nothing you can do to convince the software company from which you purchased the EULA to make it work again.

The company running Autocad 2000 doesn't own the software. They simply are licensed to use it, for however many users they bought a license for.

You are not required to upgrade software. That, however, doesn't mean you own the software. It simply means that you're happy with the software as it is. Your EULA is good in perpetuity until new operating systems won't support it and the software company has moved on to bigger and better software. If you are happy running a 13-year-old piece of software on what probably at least 6-year-old computers and operating systems, no one is going to make you upgrade.

The thing with Adobe, though, is that with their cloud computing, you always have the latest and the greatest, at no additional cost for upgrading or waiting through two or three upgrades and then having to buy new or pay a higher upgrade fee.

I signed on to Adobe's Creative Cloud back in February 2012. At that time I agreed to $39.99 a month. When CS6 came out, I got the upgrade free. Interestingly, though, my Creative Cloud monthly fee dropped from $39.99 a month to $19.99 a month. I didn't argue with them........lol

sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey

Version 5 installed next to 4. I uninstalled 4 when I saw 5 had all my presets etc. I've read 6 is coming out soon.