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Nov 20, 2011 15:34:59   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
Wow, if I had only known what I was going to start when I asked about my white balance. Anyway, I thank you all for your information. I am going to try the manual modes and grey cards with the camera because I like to try and take photos I don't need to work on in PSE later. Thank you all for your advice and information and I appreciate you taking the time to teach me so I can learn to be better.

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Nov 20, 2011 15:38:54   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
English_Wolf wrote:
I sent my negative to a now defunct professional lab that had my profile and new what my preference were when in need of correction, they were based in Detroit.

Now, as to help me learn PS, it is a generous offer from you, thank you. The trouble is that I use elements, photozoner and lightroom, not necessarily in that order. I have learned to use each, nd reluctantly use zoner or elements because I made a stupid error when I took the picture. So I kick my own butt.

That said, while learning my digital camera I am REALLY frustrated that I have to pass to a jpg to get it printed w/o opening an expensive pro account. The use of JPG when shooting is to allow me to reject quickly what I find sloppy (90%) RAW is too slow to open and inaccurate - rant - against nikon below-

What also frustrated me EVEN MORE is that Nikon created a NEF format that cannot be totally exported to another format w/o losing sensor information. If you use nikon software the results are astounding.

Then due to my formation I am picky picky picky over my own work and would love to transmit to folks (rather un-adequately that they do not need PS to shoot an excellent picture. PS for me is a walker, a cane, a crutch to save bad pictures.

If one takes good pictures and uses PS to create something new, creative from it, I have no beef with that, as long as the initial picture has MORE than just a potential for greatness. Hence my irritation when I see shots that are so-so from the beginning shown as a 'great work of art' after heavy PS post processing.

We are all here to learn, me included as I am not even near to pretend that I master the RAW format - rant about nikon - but I am moving on because when I see something here that surprises me, I check it out by doing research and learn more about it (if real) or just debunk it with great passion.

I do appreciate all your interventions by the way even if leads to clashes.
I sent my negative to a now defunct professional l... (show quote)


Clashes are okay as long as everyone keeps it civil. It's been awhile since I have used Photoshop Elements but if you have a question about it I would be happy to try and answer if for you. I started with Adobe Home Edition Years ago when I became the proud owner of an Olympus Ultrazoom 2.1 megapixel camera. Man we have come a long way since then. Anyway, the Home edition software came with the camera. Since then I have worked my way through many many upgrade editions of Elements and then
progressing through Photoshop until now Photoshop CS5. Elements is a great program and the newer versions of it have really come a long way.

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Nov 20, 2011 15:40:12   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Try the remove color cast in PSE on the wall. Save the file. Open again and repeat the process on another area.

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Nov 20, 2011 15:51:40   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
RixPix wrote:
Try the remove color cast in PSE on the wall. Save the file. Open again and repeat the process on another area.

arf... save the file? you should say:
1) export/transfer JPEG to a loss less format.
2) Save that as 'original'
3) do a change (or two) use save as -##
4) redo 2 and 3 as many times as necessary.
5) save last version as -final
6) export to JPG

Why? because every time you save a JPG you lose data. NEVER work straight out of a JPG format.

Honestly I do not see the point to so many saving unless you try to show the visual difference between each step, a good teaching aid in that case, IF you explain what you did.

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Nov 20, 2011 17:01:11   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
English_Wolf wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Try the remove color cast in PSE on the wall. Save the file. Open again and repeat the process on another area.

arf... save the file? you should say:
1) export/transfer JPEG to a loss less format.
2) Save that as 'original'
3) do a change (or two) use save as -##
4) redo 2 and 3 as many times as necessary.
5) save last version as -final
6) export to JPG

Why? because every time you save a JPG you lose data. NEVER work straight out of a JPG format.

Honestly I do not see the point to so many saving unless you try to show the visual difference between each step, a good teaching aid in that case, IF you explain what you did.
quote=RixPix Try the remove color cast in PSE on ... (show quote)


Wolf is correct you should never work on your original file.
Originals should be backed up and kept in a safe placee.
In PS, my workflow goes something like this.
1. Open original file
2. From the top of the tool bar choose Image>duplicate
3. This will create a duplicate of your original file.
4. I then close down the original and work on a copy.

I created an Action that runs automatically in PSCS5 that does this for me so I don't have to think about it and I know I am always working on a duplicate and not the original. I don't think you can create Actions in Elements but I pretty sure that the newer versions can run some actions. Do a google search and see what you can find.

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Nov 20, 2011 18:02:14   #
ftpecktim Loc: MONTANA
 
For photoshop users, may help someone
www.youtube.com/watch?v=78mww-qBnOk
For the very select few that are going to tell me that I should just learn to take a professional shot , I have feeling that will take thousands more shots (if ever),so until then i'm going to photoshop.

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Nov 20, 2011 18:07:39   #
nejanet Loc: Nebraska
 
Thanks everyone for your tips on green photos, the one reason I don't like taking people photos indoors. I do it but never happy with them. If I can, I make people go outside.....lol

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Nov 20, 2011 18:22:55   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
nejanet wrote:
Thanks everyone for your tips on green photos, the one reason I don't like taking people photos indoors. I do it but never happy with them. If I can, I make people go outside.....lol
Sounds like 'go out so that I can shoot you w/o making a mess...

You are not from a death squad, now, are you? :mrgreen: (joking)

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Nov 20, 2011 18:33:38   #
bcphotos
 
Tea8 wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I have been reading about white balance on here for use under flourescent lighting in a gym and today I had the chance to test it out. How does the white balance look in the pic below? Is it alright? I took this with my Nikon P500, Comments and Critiques please. (I took this as a test shot to know whether or not I was close to having white balance down, so it is not supposed to look perfect)

On my moniter it appears to have a cyan cast.

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Nov 20, 2011 18:43:58   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
We may need to see the picture?

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Nov 20, 2011 23:35:14   #
nejanet Loc: Nebraska
 
When my kids were young I know what they would say to that.
LOL

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Nov 22, 2011 18:59:28   #
rnichols
 
I see quite a bit of green...

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Jul 6, 2012 10:15:18   #
ianhargraves1066 Loc: NEW SMYRNA BEACH, Florida
 
Tea8 wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I have been reading about white balance on here for use under flourescent lighting in a gym and today I had the chance to test it out. How does the white balance look in the pic below? Is it alright? I took this with my Nikon P500, Comments and Critiques please. (I took this as a test shot to know whether or not I was close to having white balance down, so it is not supposed to look perfect)


Hi Tea8

Altreing the white balance to flourescent is good but many people forget that flourescent lighting does not produce the full range of colors needed to give you a great pic. It produces a light that is short on the red end of the spectrum so you will always be missing something! A burst of a flashgun will help brighten the pics up a bit. flourescent lighting was a pain in the proverbial butt with film, at least with digital you can correct to some degree.

Ian

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Jul 6, 2012 16:00:28   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
ianhargraves1066 wrote:
Tea8 wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I have been reading about white balance on here for use under flourescent lighting in a gym and today I had the chance to test it out. How does the white balance look in the pic below? Is it alright? I took this with my Nikon P500, Comments and Critiques please. (I took this as a test shot to know whether or not I was close to having white balance down, so it is not supposed to look perfect)


Hi Tea8

Altreing the white balance to flourescent is good but many people forget that flourescent lighting does not produce the full range of colors needed to give you a great pic. It produces a light that is short on the red end of the spectrum so you will always be missing something! A burst of a flashgun will help brighten the pics up a bit. flourescent lighting was a pain in the proverbial butt with film, at least with digital you can correct to some degree.

Ian
quote=Tea8 Hey Everyone! br I have been reading ... (show quote)


Thanks for the info Ian. I forgot I had even started this thread. I have become a little better at it since then, but I haven't had many chances to work under flourescent since then. I am improving my photography skills at least. You are right, it is nice to be able to correct it some in the digital darkroom. If it weren't for digital I know I wouldn't be here, lol.

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