Blue Snow, Blurry Photos? ... Just Put it in Auto
May 17, 2013 20:47:26 #
wilsondl2 wrote:
When you put your camera in M mode do you think be... (show quote)
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May 17, 2013 20:50:28 #
Nightski wrote:
The other option is to shoot in RAW and go for correct exposure and do the rest in PP. Hope this gives you some ideas. - Dave. .
Thanks Dave...I do shoot in RAW, but your answer still begs the question...why buy a DSLR if you're going to shoot in auto? Save yourself the money and buy a really nice p&s.[/quote]
You are missing one of the major points of a dSLR and that is the interchangeable lenses. Also they usually have a greater range of f/stops where P&S or bridge cameras rarely go beyond f/8.
May 17, 2013 21:21:19 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
rpavich: all makes perfect sense when tricky light and av or tv might not give you what you want. Otherwise, seems like a lot of unnecessary work :) since 95% of the time av or tv works for me (I always set ISO first).
Back to Sandy: did Bryan Peterson say why he recommended starting off with manual? To better learn how pieces of the triangle fit together? Or?
Back to Sandy: did Bryan Peterson say why he recommended starting off with manual? To better learn how pieces of the triangle fit together? Or?
Bryan Peterson Quote, "I know of no other way to consistently make correct exposures than to learn how to shoot a fully manual exposure."
May 17, 2013 21:23:19 #
Nightski wrote:
Every time I run into trouble with my DSLR, and I ... (show quote)
Do it the way Sinatra did it.Your way
May 17, 2013 21:26:46 #
Wahawk wrote:
You are missing one of the major points of a dSLR and that is the interchangeable lenses. Also they usually have a greater range of f/stops where P&S or bridge cameras rarely go beyond f/8.
I did think of that as I was posting...my olympus TG1 has a telephoto and fish eye lens, and a macro mode. And lots of other creative modes. Of course I can't attach an 800mm to it, but if I have that kind of lens, then I am probably not shooting in av or tv anymore. If I've spent the money on the really expensive lenses, chances are that I'm pretty darn proficient in Manual Mode.
May 17, 2013 21:26:57 #
Nightski wrote:
Bryan Peterson Quote, "I know of no other way to consistently make correct exposures than to learn how to shoot a fully manual exposure."
OK, thanks!
May 17, 2013 21:33:47 #
jackiewolf wrote:
I am trying to stay in manual and figure it out. That said if I can't get it right I go in auto or a scene mode and take the picture then look at how the camera set aperture and shutter speed. It helps me understand the logic behind it. I can then move back to manual and work through the settings.
Hang in there on the manual Jackie. Every time I make a mistake, I learn a lesson. Use your delete button. No big deal, unless you're doing for a living. I don't know about your camera, but my canon's buttons work differently in Manual, AV, & Tv. So if you get used to one, then you are starting all over again figuring out how your camera works in another mode. For me, it's just easier to learn the mode that I really want to work in, and stick with it.
May 17, 2013 21:38:15 #
Nightski wrote:
Every time I run into trouble with my DSLR, and I ... (show quote)
I'm only using auto when I have to make a quick shot.
May 17, 2013 21:40:45 #
UNLESS you set your ISO you will not learn how to use Manual. You must set the ISO to a Fix number. If left in auto your ISO will float up and down, not allowing the shutter or aperture to change for correct exposure.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Nightski wrote:
I did think of that as I was posting...my olympus TG1 has a telephoto and fish eye lens, and a macro mode. And lots of other creative modes. Of course I can't attach an 800mm to it, but if I have that kind of lens, then I am probably not shooting in av or tv anymore. If I've spent the money on the really expensive lenses, chances are that I'm pretty darn proficient in Manual Mode.
May 17, 2013 21:46:00 #
fstop22 wrote:
UNLESS you set your ISO you will not learn how to use Manual. You must set the ISO to a Fix number. If left in auto your ISO will float up and down, not allowing the shutter or aperture to change for correct exposure.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Fstop..why do you think I don't pay any attention to my iso..I do, but I admit that I forget sometimes. However, I have gotten so that every time I go out now I push every setting on my camera to see where I am at, because I know that one wrong setting can mess it up. I've been properly punished by my camera. Isn't that the best way to learn? How do you ever learn manual if you are too afraid to work in it? And I will go back and read some more, because I always learn more the second time around, and the third. Hopefully I will never stop learning.
May 17, 2013 22:35:38 #
The first step in shooting manual is learning what the light meter is really telling you. As Doogie's teacher said, "the meter lies to you."
May 18, 2013 00:12:07 #
rebride wrote:
The first step in shooting manual is learning what the light meter is really telling you. As Doogie's teacher said, "the meter lies to you."
I know...I finally found that out when I got my first white snow after about a gazillion tries this winter. :D
May 18, 2013 00:42:50 #
lighthouse
Loc: No Fixed Abode
You seem to be not reading the posts in this thread properly fstop22.
Maybe that is why you had to be told 2 or 3 times that yes, nightski does have that book.
Now you assume she ignores the iso setting whereas I see no indication anywhere that this is the case.
She IS at the point of using manual and getting a better understanding of it.
She HAS learned about aperture, shutter speed and ISO.
Your posts in this thread are very condescending.
It is obvious to me that nightski has read the book, continues to refer to it and is continuing to learn and push her boundaries to gain better understanding.
The improvement in her photography over the last few months is testament to this.
Maybe that is why you had to be told 2 or 3 times that yes, nightski does have that book.
Now you assume she ignores the iso setting whereas I see no indication anywhere that this is the case.
She IS at the point of using manual and getting a better understanding of it.
She HAS learned about aperture, shutter speed and ISO.
Your posts in this thread are very condescending.
It is obvious to me that nightski has read the book, continues to refer to it and is continuing to learn and push her boundaries to gain better understanding.
The improvement in her photography over the last few months is testament to this.
fstop22 wrote:
UNLESS you set your ISO you will not learn how to use Manual. You must set the ISO to a Fix number. If left in auto your ISO will float up and down, not allowing the shutter or aperture to change for correct exposure.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
Your also reading a quote from Bryan Peterson, someone who understands a camera. If you read the book again Bryan will take you thru the steps to get you to the point of using manual. After you have learned about aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
May 18, 2013 01:17:58 #
Nightski wrote:
Every time I run into trouble with my DSLR, and I ... (show quote)
If you were going to use auto mode all of the time then you might as well have a P&S or bridge camera. Auto is great if you are learning because you can look to see what the settings are switch to manual and then change a setting and see what difference it makes. Too low of an ISO with too fast a shutter speed and you get a really dark shot or just a black shot. Too high an ISO and too slow a shutter speed and you get a blown out or all white photo. Too large of an aperture setting and you have no depth of field and everything past a certain point is blurry or too small an aperture setting and everything is in focus when that is not your intention. Manual makes you the artist. Even Rembrandt had to learn to paint. It is frustrating at first but there are plenty of free resources on the internet that are free where you can get help and learn. It gets even more complicated when you begin collecting lenses. You get all comfortable with one lens and know it's limitations and where it's sweet spot is then you get a new lens and have to learn to shoot with it. You are on the right track though but when it really gets down to it, just do it your way and develop your own style and most of all just have fun doing it.
May 18, 2013 04:07:35 #
lighthouse wrote:
You seem to be not reading the posts in this threa... (show quote)
I've just returned to this thread from last night. Interesting reading. Nightski, my comment from last evening is still pertinent, and still the same ....... and just echoed by our Aussie pal. It is plain that you are a highly intelligent woman and determined to learn the correct techniques. As Lighthouse so ably says, when you KNOW you're right it doesn't take long to sort the wheat from the chaff.
You're on the correct course. If you understand manual then knowing if, and when, to use Av or Tv, becomes second nature and takes seconds to decide.
How nice to see someone so obviously learning and taking giant strides in a relatively short period of time !
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