Privacy Issue -- Today Show
May 17, 2013 07:48:45 #
There is a segment coming up on the 8:00 a.m. segment of the Today Show about a NYC photographer shooting imagess through his apartment window into an adjoing building. These images do not show any faces, but do show intimate moments in peoples lives such as a child being put to bed or feet sticking out from under bed sheets.
These images are being displayed and are for sale in a NYC gallery for as much as $8000. The Today Show will be addressing the privacy issue and interviewing gallery goers and people from the subjects building.
This will be an interesting discussion.
These images are being displayed and are for sale in a NYC gallery for as much as $8000. The Today Show will be addressing the privacy issue and interviewing gallery goers and people from the subjects building.
This will be an interesting discussion.
May 17, 2013 07:59:11 #
May 17, 2013 08:15:59 #
Just watched it. Not much discussion.
Privacy in your own home in jeopardy.
Privacy in your own home in jeopardy.
May 17, 2013 08:25:30 #
dave.speeking wrote:
Just watched it. Not much discussion.
Privacy in your own home in jeopardy.
Privacy in your own home in jeopardy.
Yeah...if you live in a glass house with no curtains.
May 17, 2013 14:05:42 #
There really wasn't much discussion as said above, other than telling the fact that it was done, That the photographs were on display at a gallery and they were for sale !!! Matt Lauer, Savannah and the other woman host were appalled that he did it and was selling them. Matt sort of took the attitude that "Hey, this is NYC what do you expect ???"
It would have been nice if they had had a legal beagle there to offer an opinion........... Charlie Rose would have done this. Maybe there will be a follow up.
It would have been nice if they had had a legal beagle there to offer an opinion........... Charlie Rose would have done this. Maybe there will be a follow up.
May 17, 2013 14:08:56 #
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
In my opinion once you enter a home uninvited it's an invasion of privacy whether physically or via a camera lens. This guy is nothing more than a "peeping Tom" that should be jailed.
May 17, 2013 14:19:50 #
I just sent the following email to the Today Show:
Matt and Savannah, I was interested when I heard the early teaser about the photographer taking pictures from his high rise apartment into other neighbors homes and then exhibiting and selling them in a NYC gallery.
However, I was dissappointed in the actual segment. There was NO discussion in regards to the legallaity of doing this. As a general rule of law, anything visable from the street is legal to photograph. BUT Apartment to another person's home ?? Should there be a reasonable expectation of privacy..... Please do a follow up ??
Gary Carlson, xxxxxxx@aol.com
Matt and Savannah, I was interested when I heard the early teaser about the photographer taking pictures from his high rise apartment into other neighbors homes and then exhibiting and selling them in a NYC gallery.
However, I was dissappointed in the actual segment. There was NO discussion in regards to the legallaity of doing this. As a general rule of law, anything visable from the street is legal to photograph. BUT Apartment to another person's home ?? Should there be a reasonable expectation of privacy..... Please do a follow up ??
Gary Carlson, xxxxxxx@aol.com
May 17, 2013 14:25:32 #
Pepper
Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
I'm not sure but I believe you can photograph anything visable as long as it's in the public domain I don't believe someones bedroom, curtains open or not, qualifies.
May 18, 2013 07:56:31 #
Pepper wrote:
In my opinion once you enter a home uninvited it's an invasion of privacy whether physically or via a camera lens. This guy is nothing more than a "peeping Tom" that should be jailed.
I agree with you to a point, granted a photographer should always respect the privacy of another, have their permission to take their photo too. One must ask if they are being invaded if they leave the curtain open for others to look in, especially when living in high rises or tall apartment buildings. It almost seems as though they are saying look at me. I know most women don't like the curtains open during intimacy times, So my question is who is really the perv here? Now the others well I don't think many people really realize what position they put themselves in without thinking of what they are doing. So ... food for thought there.
May 18, 2013 08:35:56 #
Legal or not, that kind of photo-voyeurism gives all photographers a bad name and makes the public more camera shy, even suspicious of anyone with camera. He has done us all some harm.
May 18, 2013 08:37:29 #
Maybe he should ask first. I never ask. I never photograph humans. They are too complicated for me. Birds and bugs are my subjects. Buildings and trees are more relaxing to shoot also. Mountains and streams are good. People are subjects for other photographers to deal with. I'm too busy with the rest of the universe. Stars, not movie stars for me.
But don't listen to me; I old. I have three wives and only keep one photo per wedding. Graduations? I graduated from nursery school, elementary, high school, B.A., M.A., M.S. Ph.D. and a bunch more and don't care about any photos of these events.
However, I've enjoyed 5 kids and 5 grand kids, and a bunch of pets. For these the pictures are indeed valuable to me, but not to anyone else. But I do go on. So my suggestion is move on. People do things. Shoot whatever you want. I sometimes just shoot the bull.
But don't listen to me; I old. I have three wives and only keep one photo per wedding. Graduations? I graduated from nursery school, elementary, high school, B.A., M.A., M.S. Ph.D. and a bunch more and don't care about any photos of these events.
However, I've enjoyed 5 kids and 5 grand kids, and a bunch of pets. For these the pictures are indeed valuable to me, but not to anyone else. But I do go on. So my suggestion is move on. People do things. Shoot whatever you want. I sometimes just shoot the bull.
May 18, 2013 08:44:37 #
In Canada, our law states that images taken from the public space are fair game, provided the subject would not have a reasonable expectation of privacy. A reasonable expectation of privacy includes, such things as under the skirt shots either directly or by reflection, and shooting into the interior of a residence from the public space. Now if someone is doing something on their balcony, and it is photographed, that is a bit of a line cross out of the protection afforded, since anyone can simply look and see from the street what is outside the residential space.
May 18, 2013 08:46:39 #
Definitely an invasion of privacy. I would be very upset if someone took a photo of me in my home without my knowledge. It would not matter if I was recognizable or not. After all, what else did the photographer see? Not everyone will remember to close the curtains while putting a child to bed. Not everyone would expect a photographer to sneak a peek from another apartment building! The issue of invasion of privacy should have been discussed on the show. Legally the photographer could be in big trouble.
May 18, 2013 09:16:53 #
Pepper wrote:
In my opinion once you enter a home uninvited it's an invasion of privacy whether physically or via a camera lens. This guy is nothing more than a "peeping Tom" that should be jailed.
I AGREE.. I read an article about it and it appears that he lives on the second floor of his apartment building, but is aiming up a bit to get those on higher floors of the opposite building. If I lived in a high rise on say, the 20th floor, I would expect to be able to leave my drapes open without having some self proclaimed 'artist' invading my privacy. And the fact that he didn't shoot faces should tell us that he likely knew he shouldn't be doing it in the first place. The people he photographed lprobably have way more money than he does, considering those high rise apartments go for more than 3 million each, so I expect some of them to sue him. I know I would. The article also had a couple of the photos. One was of a guy sleeping and the other a rear shot of a lady bending over to clean the floor. Totally unflattering and paying that much money for a pic of a person sleeping is insane. sheesh
May 18, 2013 10:13:52 #
If you want privacy, pull the damned curtains shut! I was walking through a campground I was staying at the other night and was startled to say the least that one motorhome had all the curtains open and all the lights on inside and there was some fat arsed man standing in the living area totally naked watching TV. I would imagine with children in the campground this would have been considered an act of flashing! If you say the children should have been in bed at this hour then remember that some people tent camp and the bathroom facility is to be shared by all and you would have to walk past this sight to get there.
I should have knocked on his door to remind him of this fact but I went blind from the sight of him! Now that I think of it I should have taken a picture and printed it out and placed it on his window!
I should have knocked on his door to remind him of this fact but I went blind from the sight of him! Now that I think of it I should have taken a picture and printed it out and placed it on his window!
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