Gnslngr

Darryl Issa, who sees conspiracies in his oatmeal, is the real villain of the Benghazi "scandal". About the tragedy, the real facts are these:

The military hesitated to bring aide. That is what Gregory Hicks, the No. 2 diplomat in Libya, testified to at the hearing yesterday. And Susan Rice, Obama's U.N. Ambassador, did incorrectly blame the attack on a “spontaneous protest,” which was later proven to have never existed. That's it. That's the entire "scandal".

Republicans’ claims that there is a wider conspiracy are unsupported by the evidence and greatly overblown, and that includes the new testimony. But this is a pattern we’ve seen again and again with Issa, who finds a drop of malfeasance and tries to turn it into the ocean. In Solyndra, he greatly overplayed his hand by trying to bring down green energy in general when, really, it was simply about one company. In Fast and Furious, he tried to use the actions of rogue ATF agents to bring down the administration.

The money and time this conspiracy nut wastes of our taxes is astounding, especially in light of the fact that the current administration is doing far, far, far, far, far worse things - things which turn the stomach - and no one, not a single congressman or senator, is doing crap about it.

qhorse Loc: north carolina

I couldn't disagree with your view more. Truth is hardly conspiracy.

Gnslngr

What truth do you think there is (that I didn't say in my original post) about this?

qhorse Loc: north carolina

I don't believe searching for the truth should be considered a conspiracy. Unfortunately we have allowed the government to lie to us for many years without holding them accountable. We tell ourselves. "it's just politics". This, to me, is not a red or blue issue, it is an issue of integrity, honesty, accepting responsibility...to maintain a ridiculous reason for the attack on Benghazi as a video for so many weeks should have given us a clue to what the government thinks of the people it governs. Many of us saw the truth, many others chose to ignore the facts. We the people have become tired of the blatant lies and misleading double talk.
The military was told not to respond, the special forces available and ready to board the plane were told to "stand down". Who gave that order. The people in Washington knew almost immediately this was a terrorist attack not some demonstration. The asst to Clinton talked with a Libyan official and told them it was clear this was a terrorist attack, so why the video story? Could it have anything, anything at all that the Presidential Election was just 2 short months away. Good grief.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

If this "scandal" grows legs it will not be because of its beginning, but because of the cover-up. Just like Watergate. Just like Lewinsky.

Rbode Loc: Ft lauderdale, Fla

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Yet, all your posts appear to support 0buma, the Islamic Terrorist Protector in Chief. And Solyndra is only the beginning of 0buma's green failure, it continues. 0buma's Justice Department forced the sale of thousands of firearms which 0buma's Justice Department lost track of and the firearms continue to be used to kill people.

Your posts don't present facts and make you appear to be a PPP, an 0buma junior league Attack Watch apparatchik and an Organizing for Action occupig.

Go GM Volt.

Gnslngr

Thanks for reading "all" of my posts. Nice to have a fan.

Too bad that, although you read them, you didn't comprehend them. I am no fan of this president, nor was I of the last one. Anyone reading and understanding them would know that. But thanks for playing!

RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida

Tuesday began as a good day for Senator Lindsey Graham. He was excited about hearings on Benghazi, hoping that three “whistleblowers” would come up with the information he and his GOP buddies need to hang Obama out to dry make a bigger mountain out of bullshit. That morning he tweeted:

“I think the dam is about to break on #Benghazi. We’re going to find system failure before, during and after the attack.”

Yeah, how did that go for ya, Lindsey? Not so good, huh? Because there was no dam, no breaking and nothing that indicated any kind of cover-up. Nope, nothing to see here, move along. Wednesday’s hearing didn’t reveal anything that a review board and five previous hearings didn’t already tell us. Mark Thompson, Greg Hicks and Eric Nordstrom produced no bombshell and no new fuel for the right-wing’s witch hunt.




Chairman of the Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa, set the tone at the start when he accused the administration of not cooperating and saying that “our minority” has been mostly silent. Apparently this is some strange new meaning of the word, “silent” that we’ve previously been unaware of. Rep. Elijah Cummings hit right back, though:

“There is no member of Congress, be they Republican or Democrat, who fails to uphold the right of whistleblowers to come forward. I think it’s sad when that accusation is made against any member of this Congress. The fact is that our top military commanders have already testified they did everything in their power to deploy assets as soon as possible.” Cummings said that all testimony and documents so far confirm “… that they could not get there in time. I have seen nothing to make me question the proof on this.” (source)

Not that the GOP members of the Committee didn’t give it their best. Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah was certain that the witnesses would detail how the country was misled by the Obama administration both before and after the attack on the American embassy in Libya. But in 6 hours of questions and answers, there was no such information. Now poor Jason has a sad, frowny face.

There was an effort to smear former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, by using an out-of-context quote from her testimony in January. Remember when, after being browbeaten by the partisan hacks on the Committee, she asked “What difference does it make?” going on to state that their job was to figure out what happened and to make sure it never happened again? Well, Rep. Trey Gowdy (S.C.) decided to just use that first sentence and do a bit of grandstanding. Tsk tsk, Mr. Gowdy… Hillary said in January that she accepted responsibility and would make every correction that the review board suggested. But that doesn’t fit into his emoting and pandering.

On top of the lack of bombshells at the hearing, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs, Elizabeth King, sent a letter to Congressman Elijah Cummings yesterday. In it, she explained why the Commander In-Extremis Force couldn’t have reached Benghazi in time to prevent a second attack:

“… because exact conditions on the ground in Benghazi were unknown……the CIF began to fulfill its tasking by pre-positioning at an intermediate staging location, Naval Air Station Sigonella (in Sicily, Italy). From the moment the CIF was ordered to move, it did not stand down until after all personnel (including the fallen) had been evacuated from Benghazi in a little over 12 hours after the initiation of the attack… the time needed from alerting the CIF to landing at the Benghazi airport is greater than the approximately 7.5 hours between the initiation of the first attack and the second one. As such, the time requirements for notification, load and transit alone prevented the CIF from being at the annex in enough time to change events.”

So much for that criticism. Fox News has a copy of the letter but somehow I doubt if they will be saying much about it since it doesn’t help their make-believe narrative.

There are a few things that really have me both angry and annoyed with this whole Benghazi bullshit: 1) where is the outrage at the House Republicans who voted to CUT security for the embassy? They cut $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget just before the attack. Why aren’t they being raked over the coals for that? 2) Where was the right-wing when, under G.W. Bush, seven embassies were attacked and many more than 4 people were killed? How come they never shrieked about that? 3) What about Reagan? Three embassy attacks, including Beirut where 17 Americans were killed. No? That was okay?

This Benghazi thing is making the right insane. Literally. You know the saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? That’s where the GOP is right now. They are so invested in this fantasy that they have lost any ability to see reality. And Fox News feeds the fire, complaining that no other news outlets are covering this. Could it be because it’s utter and complete bullshit? Of course not, not to these modern-day inquisitors. They hate our president that much. It’s sickening.

qhorse Loc: north carolina

perhaps you should check your facts.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Rix seems to be making a habit of posting, verbatim, the writing of others, and this without giving any credit to them. His entire post (with the exception of the image) was written by T. Steelman, a liberal blogger. This article by Steelman was posted on the website Addicting Info, and can be seen here:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/09/gops-big-benghazi-bombshell-turns-out-to-be-another-big-dud/

What Rix is doing is akin to posting photographs of others on this site without getting permission or giving credit. It may constitute copyright violations and/or plagiarism. If you wish to troll, at least write your own material.:thumbdown:

qhorse Loc: north carolina

ah ha Bmac, I checked your link. This explains a lot. :)

GregC Loc: Alabaster, Al

And I was really thinking he'd make it all the way through without mentioning (blaming) George W with something. Well he he did make it to the next to last paragraph.......




quote=Bmac]Rix seems to be making a habit of posting, verbatim, the writing of others, and this without giving any credit to them. His entire post (with the exception of the image) was written by T. Steelman, a liberal blogger. This article by Steelman was posted on the website Addicting Info, and can be seen here:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/09/gops-big-benghazi-bombshell-turns-out-to-be-another-big-dud/

What Rix is doing is akin to posting photographs of others on this site without getting permission or giving credit. It may constitute copyright violations and/or plagiarism. If you wish to troll, at least write your own material.:thumbdown:[/quote]

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

I agree with gnsingr...your talking about "truth," not Truth.

The entire controversy is about trying to destroy Hillary before she becomes POTUS.

It's shameful.

The repubs have be one absolutely insane, and they will have a serious price to pay as they lose more and more national elections.

It'll be fun to watch...

ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina

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toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

Agree with you wholeheartedly!!
There were at least 8 attacks on US embassies or missions during Bush administration and not one single word was utterred. Sickening.