Excellent information. Thanks for posting.
Good article - thank you.
abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
I think this article is a great big leap backwards.
His approach is arbitrary, time consuming, and imprecise. It is like ignoring your meter and histogram so you can shoot manually. Years ago when we had inferior tools, we did just what the author advocates and hoped to fix it in the darkroom. As much as I love and respect the age of film, I am not going back. Now, to quote the article.
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"Before wrapping this up I wanted to address one last question I often get. While teaching this principle I always have someone in the class reach into their bag and pull out an ExpoDisc and explain that is how they get the proper white balance in their camera. While these little discs can be effective when used properly, once you learn Kelvin temps they are no longer needed. In fact, most photographers I know sell off their ExpoDisc once they realize just how easy it is to shoot dialing in your own Kelvin temperature. So, if you are one of those using the ExpoDisc as your crutch I challenge you to learn how to read the temperature of light on your own and practice shooting leaving the disc at home."
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I use Expodisc and think it is a far superior approach to color balance and I challenge the author's claim that "most photographers I know sell off their ExpoDisc...." I hope no one follow's the advice in this article.
As one who shoots exclusively in RAW, AWB seems to make more sense than trying to estimate the temperature of any given situation. Adjustments in PP when needed take very little time and I dare say are more accurate than the method proposed in this article.
abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
windshoppe wrote:
As one who shoots exclusively in RAW, AWB seems to make more sense than trying to estimate the temperature of any given situation. Adjustments in PP when needed take very little time and I dare say are more accurate than the method proposed in this article.
Sorry but I do not agree. AWB is best if one has no other objective way of assessing white balance. Estimating is not objective.
When adjusting in post-processing, one has to decide if the white balance should be true to the original scene (try remembering that accurately) or changed to achieve some artistic effect. Both are valid. Using something objective like the Expodisc strives to capture that original balance. Without it, trying to get that original balance can be a real challenge.
I would agree that adjust color balance in post-processing "take very little time" but accuracy, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder.
windshoppe wrote:
As one who shoots exclusively in RAW, AWB seems to make more sense than trying to estimate the temperature of any given situation. Adjustments in PP when needed take very little time and I dare say are more accurate than the method proposed in this article.
:thumbup: That's what I do and then can adjust to suit the mood. I watch Adorama videos and I recall that one photographer indicated that he hadn't used either a light meter or a WB card since his film days - just adjust in pp. I've been doing that since my first dslr (about 5 years) and am satisfied.
windshoppe wrote:
As one who shoots exclusively in RAW, AWB seems to make more sense than trying to estimate the temperature of any given situation. Adjustments in PP when needed take very little time and I dare say are more accurate than the method proposed in this article.
White balance has no effect when shooting in raw. raw is a raw file with no adjustments by the camera. When shooting in raw there is nothing accomplished by having different white balance settings. If you shoot raw and jpeg then the jpeg is affected but not the raw. I check my histogram once in a while out of curiousity and I do an initial exposure check with the camera light meter but I do all of my shooting manually. The only time I use a light meter is when I do studio photography with strobes.
I did not read the article. I shoot most times in AWB, but in certain circumstances, setting Color temperature manually, is the way to go.
MMC
Loc: Brooklyn NY
After reading your statement I checked in ACR my white balance setting taking 2 pictures of the same subject changing WB and I found out that WB is different in 2 pictures. I took pictures in RAW format.
silver wrote:
White balance has no effect when shooting in raw. raw is a raw file with no adjustments by the camera. When shooting in raw there is nothing accomplished by having different white balance settings. If you shoot raw and jpeg then the jpeg is affected but not the raw. I check my histogram once in a while out of curiousity and I do an initial exposure check with the camera light meter but I do all of my shooting manually. The only time I use a light meter is when I do studio photography with strobes.
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MMC wrote:
After reading your statement I checked in ACR my white balance setting taking 2 pictures of the same subject changing WB and I found out that WB is different in 2 pictures. I took pictures in RAW format.
You are quite correct. While adjusting WB in RAW is simple and quick, the RAW file will, indeed, show the results of the WB that was used in camera at the time the shot was taken.
I tested this using AWB against K with my 7D. The same scene looked better in camera with the K setting. Although it was subtle, I could tell the difference. I am going to put this to the test tomorrow at a Botanical garden shoot. I'll let you know how it goes. I really think it is the way to go.
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