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Apr 22, 2013 22:57:19   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
A question taken from a public school Geography textbook currently in use in Tennessee...

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"If a Palestinian suicide bomber kills several dozen Israeli teenagers in a Jerusalem restaurant, is that an act of terrorism or wartime retaliation against Israeli government policies and army actions?"


http://breathecast.christianpost.com/articles/pjtn-sees-anti-semitic-curriculum-tn-schools-7145/

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Apr 22, 2013 23:53:45   #
CardinalLady Loc: Hoosier
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
A question taken from a public school Geography textbook currently in use in Tennessee...



http://breathecast.christianpost.com/articles/pjtn-sees-anti-semitic-curriculum-tn-schools-7145/



whoa! In this day of many Day Care raised children, this makes it clear you better be in there with quality time and values!

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Apr 23, 2013 03:10:58   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Is that serious or a joke, what age are the pupils

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Apr 23, 2013 08:15:01   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
Depends on which side you belong to. One person's terrorism is another person's retaliation.

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Apr 23, 2013 08:27:42   #
krf4 Loc: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
 
lovesphotos wrote:
Depends on which side you belong to. One person's terrorism is another person's retaliation.


Tell that to the folks in Boston.

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Apr 23, 2013 08:28:12   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
lovesphotos wrote:
Depends on which side you belong to. One person's terrorism is another person's retaliation.


So what just happened in Boston?

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Apr 23, 2013 08:29:53   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JR1 wrote:
Is that serious or a joke, what age are the pupils


Middle school, it is happening, it was also reported on the dreaded Fox channel.... The channel that reports the news that the left would prefer that you never see.... Our children's text books are being filled with all kinds of garbage, "The Story of Stuff" is an egregious example of leftist political ideology finding its way into our children's classrooms.... but it is only one of many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM

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Apr 23, 2013 09:04:20   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
A question taken from a public school Geography textbook currently in use in Tennessee...



http://breathecast.christianpost.com/articles/pjtn-sees-anti-semitic-curriculum-tn-schools-7145/


Unfortunately I fear this is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many that are aggressively working to change text books and change history as well.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:19:58   #
lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So what just happened in Boston?


What a dumb question. It was sheer terrorism. But your original question was not about Boston. My answer was for that question.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:26:23   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
lovesphotos wrote:
What a dumb question. It was sheer terrorism. But your question was not about Boston.


So you think that blowing up teenagers in an Israeli restaurant is somehow different than blowing up spectators in Boston? And you suggest that my question is dumb... Let's see, if you take the Jihadists position this is just retaliation for our military and political exploits against the Muslim people and Muslim nations, it is retaliation for our Drone strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Iraq....

Point is that there is no distinction, both are acts of terror aimed at innocent civilians and this question and the line of teaching that prompted it does not belong in our middle school classrooms... This is more inline with indoctrination than it is in line with teaching, these children have not yet developed the critical thinking skills nor the knowledge base to refute the garbage being forced into their young and impressionable minds.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:33:30   #
Gnslngr
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So you think that blowing up teenagers in an Israeli restaurant is somehow different than blowing up spectators in Boston? And you suggest that my question is dumb... Let's see, if you take the Jihadists position this is just retaliation for our military and political exploits against the Muslim people and Muslim nations, it is retaliation for our Drone strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Iraq....

Point is that there is no distinction, both are acts of terror aimed at innocent civilians and this question and the line of teaching that prompted it does not belong in our middle school classrooms... This is more inline with indoctrination than it is in line with teaching, these children have not yet developed the critical thinking skills nor the knowledge base to refute the garbage being forced into their young and impressionable minds.
So you think that blowing up teenagers in an Israe... (show quote)


"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - Gerald Seymour. When white Europeans settled in North America, they terrorized both warring and peaceful tribes of Native Americans. When Israel was born, Moshe Dayan was celebrated for his use of the Molotov cocktail - which collaterally killed many innocent Palestinians. The question in the textbook is a thought provoking one, and one I would like to see children answer. Will they all knee-jerk the terrorism card, or will they see the frustration of the weak suffering at the hands of the powerful? Of course, you want them to make the judgement call that all acts like the one hypothesized are bad - but you can only come to believe that conclusion when you have worked your way towards it.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:39:58   #
Gnslngr
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Middle school, it is happening, it was also reported on the dreaded Fox channel.... The channel that reports the news that the left would prefer that you never see.... Our children's text books are being filled with all kinds of garbage, "The Story of Stuff" is an egregious example of leftist political ideology finding its way into our children's classrooms.... but it is only one of many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GorqroigqM


Ralph Nader called that video "a model of clarity and motivation." I could not agree more. Although some of the facts are exaggerated (which the filmmaker acknowledges and fixes in the teacher's handout), the point made is clear and true. Don't really see this as "leftist political ideology" but rather as a fact. We, as Americans, use more of the earth's resources than any other country or populace in the world. We cannot sustain that consumption. I cannot refute that.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:46:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Gnslngr wrote:
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - Gerald Seymour. When white Europeans settled in North America, they terrorized both warring and peaceful tribes of Native Americans. When Israel was born, Moshe Dayan was celebrated for his use of the Molotov cocktail - which collaterally killed many innocent Palestinians. The question in the textbook is a thought provoking one, and one I would like to see children answer. Will they all knee-jerk the terrorism card, or will they see the frustration of the weak suffering at the hands of the powerful? Of course, you want them to make the judgement call that all acts like the one hypothesized are bad - but you can only come to believe that conclusion when you have worked your way towards it.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom... (show quote)


I see so Al Qaeda, the kids in Boston, the Iranians supplying militants with IED's it's all good, they are just fighting for freedom, Sharia, and the right to enjoy their fig pies in peace. Maybe our anger is misplaced for these guys, maybe we should be celebrating them as heros..

No matter the history of white Europeans, or the history of the Israelis, terrorism is terrorism, lets not try to romanticise it by making it into something that it is not by symphatizing with cold blooded killers... If you want to live with bombs going off in cities throughout this country, and the world for that matter, aimed at killing and maiming innocents, then keep giving them your understanding and your intellectual support, because there will always be down trodden with political grievances lacking the military might to challenge those they feel oppress them, but attacking innocents will always be within their reach. You should condemn terrorism for what it is instead of lending it your tacit support.

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Apr 23, 2013 09:49:01   #
hamtrack Loc: Omaha NE
 
For those who do not know Israel is less than 9 times the size of the State of Nebraska. It is surrounded by about 1 billion Arab Nations who daily make sure that everyone hears their intent to kill all Jew Pigs first and then the rest of us infidels.With those circumstances plainly in place and in action, how in hell can anyone equate anything in the way of defensive responses to being an aggressor? As for the TN Geography Text Book (Geography used to be taught to educate children as to the whereabouts of other nations, oceans, mountain ranges,major cities and continents.) What should be done with school administration responsible is unprintable. I am beginning to believe that the Progressive movement in this country is absolutely and certifiably committed to the destruction of the United States.
Blurryeyed wrote:
So you think that blowing up teenagers in an Israeli restaurant is somehow different than blowing up spectators in Boston? And you suggest that my question is dumb... Let's see, if you take the Jihadists position this is just retaliation for our military and political exploits against the Muslim people and Muslim nations, it is retaliation for our Drone strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and Iraq....

Point is that there is no distinction, both are acts of terror aimed at innocent civilians and this question and the line of teaching that prompted it does not belong in our middle school classrooms... This is more inline with indoctrination than it is in line with teaching, these children have not yet developed the critical thinking skills nor the knowledge base to refute the garbage being forced into their young and impressionable minds.
So you think that blowing up teenagers in an Israe... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2013 09:56:31   #
Gnslngr
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I see so Al Qaeda, the kids in Boston, the Iranians supplying militants with IED's it's all good, they are just fighting for freedom, Sharia, and the right to enjoy their fig pies in peace. Maybe our anger is misplaced for these guys, maybe we should be celebrating them as heros..

No matter the history of white Europeans, or the history of the Israelis, terrorism is terrorism, lets not try to romanticise it by making it into something that it is not by symphatizing with cold blooded killers... If you want to live with bombs going off in cities throughout this country, and the world for that matter, aimed at killing and maiming innocents, then keep giving them your understanding and your intellectual support, because there will always be down trodden with political grievances lacking the military might to challenge those they feel oppress them, but attacking innocents will always be within their reach. You should condemn terrorism for what it is instead of lending it your tacit support.
I see so Al Qaeda, the kids in Boston, the Iranian... (show quote)


Do you read my posts? Nowhere did I say I give terrorism my support - but to simply sit back and never question the motives of the people that attack us, to never understand their perspective, is the height of ignorance.

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