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Dead Spider for Practice
Apr 16, 2013 16:34:40   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
I found this one inside today and used him/her for practice. Saw my first jumper while mowing grass yesterday, but it was gone by the time I got my macro setup ready. First spider macro using new camera, so anxious for your input before I go back outdoors.
Canon 7D, Canon 100mm macro, Canon 430 EXII flash, Rocketfish mini diffuser (from Best Buy).

f/18, 1/200 sec, ISO 200, manual flash at 1/4+0.7

Cropped
Cropped...

Taken manual at 1:1 ratio on camera
Taken manual at 1:1 ratio on camera...

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Apr 16, 2013 16:59:55   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Get closer! I assume your first image is a crop of second image. You have cropped-out 80% of your capture.

In order for image #2 to be a true macro, your working distance (lens front element to spider) would be 5.3-inches, and this would have to be a very small spider.

Are you shooting manual, or any auto setting on camera (Av, Tv, Auto)?

Also, your diffuser needs to be wider. I still see "point light source" reflection in eyes.

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Apr 16, 2013 18:10:39   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
get closer but watch out,dead spiders are still dangerous :-)

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Apr 16, 2013 19:31:03   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
In order for image #2 to be a true macro, your working distance (lens front element to spider) would be 5.3-inches, and this would have to be a very small spider.
Are you shooting manual, or any auto setting on camera (Av, Tv, Auto)?
Also, your diffuser needs to be wider. I still see "point light source" reflection in eyes.
You must have overlooked the first picture titled as "cropped" and the 2nd image is titled "1:1 ratio" (set camera to "1" and moved in until focused). Yes, he is a very small spider, body about 4mm. Couldn't get any closer. I am shooting manual on both camera and flash. I did try a larger diffuser I made, but I haven't been happy with it. I deleted those pics but think they are still in my trash. I'll post a 3rd pic, if I have it. The reflection is a big wide area instead of the point of light. I prefer the smaller point of light (for now at least). Any other recommendations? Is the focus okay? Thanks!
Added pic below, but really looks the same as the first on here. Will look for another example.

Using DIY Diffuser
Using DIY Diffuser...

Side View w/ruler in mm
Side View w/ruler in mm...

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Apr 16, 2013 19:33:30   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
tinusbum wrote:
get closer but watch out,dead spiders are still dangerous :-)


Thanks a bunch. :) Now I'm jittery when I get near dead spiders too!

Couldn't get any closer. Already at minimum working distance.

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Apr 16, 2013 20:23:39   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
sford122 wrote:
Yes, he is a very small spider, body about 4mm. Couldn't get any closer. I am shooting manual on both camera and flash. I did try a larger diffuser I made, but I haven't been happy with it.
A 4-mm subject is not a good learning subject. Your sensor screen is about 22.3-mm wide x 14.9-mm high. Use it. Find subjects that are just under 1-inch wide (25.4-mm) to learn exposure, focus, DoF, etc. Work your way towards smaller subjects. I still tend to avoid such small spiders.

I like the DIY diffuser illumination.

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Apr 16, 2013 20:34:10   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
A 4-mm subject is not a good learning subject. Your sensor screen is about 22.8-mm wide. Use it. Find subjects that are just under 1-inch wide (25.4-mm) to learn exposure, focus, DoF, etc. Work your way towards smaller subjects. I still tend to avoid such small spiders.
I always appreciate your input and take your recommendations for improvement very seriously and I will start taking pictures of inch-long subjects (especially if I can find an inch-worm!). However, I am obsessed with all spiders, especially jumpers now, and I will not give up the thrill of trying to take good pictures of these. I'm "happy" with the improvement I'm seeing in my spider shot attempts. The more practice, the better I feel I'm doing. If they aren't good enough to post here, tell me, and I will quit posting. No hard feelings.

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Apr 16, 2013 21:00:11   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
sford122 wrote:
I will not give up the thrill of trying to take good pictures of (small spiders). I'm "happy" with the improvement I'm seeing in my spider shot attempts. The more practice, the better I feel I'm doing. If they aren't good enough to post here, tell me, and I will quit posting. No hard feelings.
My point is that a your learning curve will be shorter with easier subjects. I am all for more practice, and I know that learning is easier (more smiles) with larger subjects, easing into smaller critters. This is a learning forum. Post anything you want us to see. Ask all questions, including C&C.

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Apr 16, 2013 21:05:11   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
Thanks Douglass.

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