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Apr 13, 2013 18:08:05   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Good!!!! Here is my email the IRS can read. Read it and shove it. I've been almost bled dry. I barely have a pulse. Come get the rest. Screw off.




IRS May Be Reading Your Email Without a Warrant

Internal Revenue Service files obtained by the ACLU show that the government agency tasked with collecting taxes may also be reading your email without getting a judge’s permission.

The documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union under the Freedom of Information Act show that the IRS Criminal Tax Division has long held the position that email should not be protected from unusual searches and seizure under the Fourth Amendment.

“So does the IRS always get a warrant?” an ACLU blog post asks. “Unfortunately, while the documents we have obtained do not answer this question point blank, they suggest otherwise.”

Guidelines produced by the IRS indicate that citizens had no right to expect privacy in email communications prior to a 2010 court ruling by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. Even after the ruling in United States v. Warshak that stated the government must obtain a probable cause warrant before it could make email providers turn over their records, the agency didn’t change its guidelines.

When it made edits to the Internal Revenue Manual in March 2011 it didn’t change the policy: “Investigators can obtain everything in an account except for unopened e-mail or voice mail stored with a provider for 180 days or less using a [relevant-and-material-standard] court order.”

The ACLU says that while the 180-day rule is standard procedure, the IRS still seems to cling to the idea that opened emails left on a server more than 180 days can be read without obtaining a warrant.

It is also unclear whether the IRS considers the Warshak ruling applicable to all jurisdictions or just to the Sixth Circuit.



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Apr 13, 2013 18:28:08   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
I would question anything the ACLU says.

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Apr 13, 2013 18:29:56   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Bultaco wrote:
I would question anything the ACLU says.


They're a bunch of attorneys. Would they lie?
Does Bultaco refer to the dirt bikes?

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Apr 13, 2013 18:57:43   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
pounder35 wrote:
They're a bunch of attorneys. Would they lie?
Does Bultaco refer to the dirt bikes?


Yes I rode for Bultaco in the late 60's and early 70's, loved motocross. My mind says I can still ride but my body says your a fool. I ride ATV's now since I'm 71 years young.

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Apr 13, 2013 19:47:40   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Bultaco wrote:
Yes I rode for Bultaco in the late 60's and early 70's, loved motocross. My mind says I can still ride but my body says your a fool. I ride ATV's now since I'm 71 years young.


I rode in the mid 70's. Motocross, hare scrambles, and some enduro. We had more hare scrambles in my area but a few decent motocross tracks. I retired from competition after turning my right ankle into a jigsaw puzzle and spending three months in a cast from heel to hip. I still rode but didn't compete. I have a nice motocross track about 25 miles from my house and shot some at the close of the season. I've got to check the schedule this year and go back up there. We had one guy around here that rode a Bultaco. I ran mostly Honda and Suzuki. I wanted a Husky or KTM but couldn't afford one.:thumbup: Here's a few shots. Two with some Topaz effects.







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Apr 13, 2013 20:22:32   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
pounder35 wrote:
They're a bunch of attorneys. Would they lie?
Are their lips moving?

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Apr 13, 2013 20:26:00   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Are their lips moving?


Just to suck blood. :thumbup:

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Apr 13, 2013 20:43:17   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Bultaco wrote:
I would question anything the ACLU says.


As much as I dislike the ACLU, they have been right more often than not. As for the IRS if you don't think they would read your email without a warrant, guess again. After all they are the IRS, who's going to stop them

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Apr 13, 2013 23:56:25   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Why would the IRS spend time reading email? How much financial information does one put out there on the net for the world to see? Seems like one more way of another government agency wasting the taxpayers money.

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Apr 14, 2013 07:40:32   #
oregon don
 
Well pepper, you may be telling your friends about your trips to Japan and the Bahamas, they would want to know under which bed you have been stuffing your money.

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Apr 14, 2013 08:30:29   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
Pepper wrote:
Why would the IRS spend time reading email? How much financial information does one put out there on the net for the world to see? Seems like one more way of another government agency wasting the taxpayers money.


What makes you think that it has to do with money?! Just because it's the IRS??!! :~(

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Apr 14, 2013 10:37:38   #
Ambrose Loc: North America
 
You might have titled you email, "ANYONE May be reading Your Email". You can blame the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986.

Indeed - Any email that is stored on a third party's server for more than 180 days is considered by the law to be abandoned, and all that is required to obtain the content of the emails by a law enforcement agency, is a written statement certifying that the information is relevant to an investigation, with absolutely no judicial review required whatsoever.

That is scary.
I just shot an email to my congressman to have the act updated.

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Apr 14, 2013 10:54:38   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Are their lips moving?

Sometimes their lips don't have to move to lie.

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Apr 14, 2013 10:55:26   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Festus wrote:
What makes you think that it has to do with money?! Just because it's the IRS??!! :~(


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Apr 14, 2013 11:14:25   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
I would think that the only email the IRS reads is that of big time shysters who are trying to keep from paying their taxes or trying to send their money to off shore accounts. They don't have the time nor the inclination to pursue the 'small people' unless one of those small people makes glaring mistakes on his/her returns.

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