The article says Newtown parents and the governor objected to inclusion of a "grandfather clause" for magazines holding over 10 rounds, and later specify owners of said magazines must register them with the state by next January. Apparently the governor and the parents did not get their wish.
They are finally paying some sort of attention to the mental health aspect of all this, even if it's only adding 2 more people to the bureaucracy.
All in all, as tough as they claim it is, I doubt it will do much to eliminate the problem they believe they are addressing.
Danilo,
I wouldn't write the law off as a failure yet. Now that we have one state that has taken action we need to look at it for the next couple of years and see if there is any impact.
Then we can judge it.
I think the real Achilles heal to this law is that it isn't federal and someone can still go to another state and buy these prohibited items.
The USA is (I believe) the only country that has a hundred different gun laws instead of one federal law. I know the hue and cry will come up from the right about "states rights" but I don't buy it. The Constitution is a federal document so why should the states be able to interpret it 50 different ways?
Feel good laws that will serve no purpose other than to hamper lawful gun owners.
Remoman
Loc: Someplace Remote Near LA
pbearperry wrote:
Feel good laws that will serve no purpose other than to hamper lawful gun owners.
I saw a story somewhere with the question something like this, "How many deaths of children are acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
Let me change it and make it a bit more personal, "How many deaths of your children would you deem acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
Remoman wrote:
I saw a story somewhere with the question something like this, "How many deaths of children are acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
Let me change it and make it a bit more personal, "How many deaths of your children would you deem acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
Deaths as tragic as they are will not be stopped through legislation. People go out of their way to commit crimes in areas that they know are safe for them, as in nobody there to shoot back.
Danilo wrote:
The article says Newtown parents and the governor objected to inclusion of a "grandfather clause" for magazines holding over 10 rounds, and later specify owners of said magazines must register them with the state by next January. Apparently the governor and the parents did not get their wish.
They are finally paying some sort of attention to the mental health aspect of all this, even if it's only adding 2 more people to the bureaucracy.
All in all, as tough as they claim it is, I doubt it will do much to eliminate the problem they believe they are addressing.
The article says Newtown parents and the governor ... (
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What they didn't include are the parents who spoke out against more anti-gun laws.
Frank T wrote:
Danilo,
I wouldn't write the law off as a failure yet. Now that we have one state that has taken action we need to look at it for the next couple of years and see if there is any impact.
Then we can judge it.
I think the real Achilles heal to this law is that it isn't federal and someone can still go to another state and buy these prohibited items.
The USA is (I believe) the only country that has a hundred different gun laws instead of one federal law. I know the hue and cry will come up from the right about "states rights" but I don't buy it. The Constitution is a federal document so why should the states be able to interpret it 50 different ways?
Danilo, br I wouldn't write the law off as a fail... (
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It helps to know the Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The sad truth is that bad or evil people will continue to kill innocent people.They will use whatever object that will help them be successful.Tim McVeigh used fertilizer to create a powerful bomb and kill a huge amount of innocents.There are too many factors of blame to go around.Friends and family that watch someone falling apart,courts with revolving doors and many others.What infuriates me is many times after something evil occurs,someone who knows the piece of garbage will say something like,"Gee,we knew something like this was gonna happen."
pbearperry wrote:
The sad truth is that bad or evil people will continue to kill innocent people.They will use whatever object that will help them be successful.Tim McVeigh used fertilizer to create a powerful bomb and kill a huge amount of innocents.There are too many factors of blame to go around.Friends and family that watch someone falling apart,courts with revolving doors and many others.What infuriates me is many times after something evil occurs,someone who knows the piece of garbage will say something like,"Gee,we knew something like this was gonna happen."
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Think how the people in Mexico felt when family members were killed by guns from Obamas gun running program. If you or I tried that we would be in jail for life.
People kill a lot more people when guns are available. We all know there are other ways of killing but the stats over the last 40 years show that countries where strong gun control is legislated and enforced cut their overall homicide rates by 3 quarters.
Oh I get it. We must bow down to the wills and wishes of the Newtown parents because they are the only ones that know what should be done. Uh huh.
Skellum0 wrote:
People kill a lot more people when guns are available. We all know there are other ways of killing but the stats over the last 40 years show that countries where strong gun control is legislated and enforced cut their overall homicide rates by 3 quarters.
Your statement is very incorrect.
However, other countries weren't built under the Constitution which restricts what government can do legally.
Which is why the libs play the word games to redefine what they want to try to get around those restrictions.
Nor does it matter to a a lot of you people out there. We state our concerns and you write it off as nonsense because it doesn't fit with your agenda either. Then you gladly inflict harm to those who abide by the laws totally ignoring those who don't.
GeneB
Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
Remoman wrote:
I saw a story somewhere with the question something like this, "How many deaths of children are acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
Let me change it and make it a bit more personal, "How many deaths of your children would you deem acceptable to continue to own assault weapons?"
How many deaths are acceptable to allow people to continue driving cars and trucks on the highways before we make laws to stop people dying in car crashes? How many people have to die before we outlaw cancer by legislation?
This is how ridiculous we can be. :x
Frank T wrote:
Danilo,
I wouldn't write the law off as a failure yet. Now that we have one state that has taken action we need to look at it for the next couple of years and see if there is any impact.
Then we can judge it.
I think the real Achilles heal to this law is that it isn't federal and someone can still go to another state and buy these prohibited items.
The USA is (I believe) the only country that has a hundred different gun laws instead of one federal law. I know the hue and cry will come up from the right about "states rights" but I don't buy it. The Constitution is a federal document so why should the states be able to interpret it 50 different ways?
Danilo, br I wouldn't write the law off as a fail... (
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A hundred gun laws? Try 20,000 some gun laws that are not being enforced,so apparently we need some more that won't be enforced.And if they are,what are we going to do,release murderers,rapists,and hard core drug dealers to make room for the father of 3 who is in mere possession of a rifle he has lawfully owned for perhaps decades? Freakin' unreal!!!!
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