Photo "blues"
Mar 26, 2013 21:23:48 #
This past week end I had the pleasure of shooting a barrel racing finals along with a good friend. We would set up at different barrels so we would be sure to get a shot of at least one good turn. There were 130 riders each getting 3 goes. We would shoot at least 6 shots of each rider. This made for a whopping 3232 pictures just from my camera. In one of the covered arenas I kept getting this blue reflection. It was not on all of the shots and not on all of the three barrels at any time just random. Here is a shot of one with the blue in it. This picture was a throw away but I wanted to see if any one could help me with this problem. These arenas are very hard to shot in because of the outside lighting and very little inside lighting. I dept switching my settings and nothing seemed to help.
Mar 26, 2013 21:40:18 #
tom hughes
Loc: Phila Pa
can you give us the shutter speed, iso, wb and f/stop and camera make & model. thanks
Mar 26, 2013 21:51:15 #
tom hughes wrote:
can you give us the shutter speed, iso, wb and f/stop and camera make & model. thanks
Nikon D5000, f/4.8, ISO 640, shutter speed 1/60, WB flash..these all varied as I was working through the settings still getting the blue on all. Lens is 55-200 with Vivitar series 1 UV filter 52mm.
Mar 26, 2013 22:00:19 #
Could this be the lighting on dust that was kicked up. In arenea that I have seen there has been mixed light sourse. Other than that I don't know but am interested!
Mar 26, 2013 22:10:11 #
Moses, that looks like purple fringing. It's usually caused by your lenses optics. It can be taken out in PP. it won't happen if you dont overexpose, but then your subject may be too dark. Now you know why some spend the big bucks for a lens.
Mar 26, 2013 22:53:21 #
Mrsmoses wrote:
This past week end I had the pleasure of shooting ... (show quote)
I noticed that right away. Probably reared to the very bright background.
Mar 26, 2013 23:42:11 #
i had that for a while. in a shoot i been doing for 3 years on a bugatti airplane build. mine was more do to the floreccant lighting. an when i had light coming in from outside. for me i used a green flash gel cover. an if i aimed toward something lil darker to set the auto. turn the auto focus off. an manual focus. you might try it shooting towards the outside daylight. it will work you it did me. lol it easier in winter the hangar doors are closed. lol
Mar 27, 2013 01:14:03 #
I won't argue with the more knowledgable contributors here, but I wonder if the blue and blacks in the sunlit areas could be shadows blown out by the bright light. Also, congratulations on being able to catch the entire horse and rider in spite of the difficult lighting.
Mar 27, 2013 07:13:10 #
CurreyPhoto
Loc: Reddick, Florida
This looks like lens flair to me. When you shot in a different direction did the same thing happen? If not, then surely it is lens flair. As somebody else mentioned, that is the reason for expensive glass, lens hoods and no filters. As to the exposure, I have shot in many of these covered but open on the sides horse arenas and my solution to exposure is to spot meter on the subject for ballpark exposure, then use those settings for manual exposure and tweek as needed. Also, and I know you didn't ask, shutter speed needs to be 1/500th or faster to stop the action and, if you are going to get all of the horse and rider in reasonable focus, aperature needs to be f4.0 or smaller. These arenas are very tough to shoot in. It took me a long time to come to the realization that I needed to shoot for the best subject picture and let the background go to white if it needed to. Good luck with your horse shooting. It looks really exciting.
Mar 27, 2013 07:19:19 #
I agree with Chuck Currey - looks like flare to me. One thing it is not, is fringing. Forget that. I think that the Vivitar UV filter may have had something to do with it - if it is not multi-coated for digital use. Is it a hold-over from your film camera days?
Mar 27, 2013 07:26:34 #
If you are referring to the blue cast below the horses nostrils, could it be his (the horses) warm moist breath in a cool atmosphere in the ring, refracting cool ambient light? Also, zoomed in on the download, looks like a lot of color noise... a lot noisier than ISO 640. Is this cropped?
Mar 27, 2013 13:50:44 #
Thanks everyone for your answeres. I know I need to upgrade to better equipment and hopefully will before our county fair in July which I have been booked to do. It will be 300+ kids with an average of 5 classes for each. That is a lot of shooting. I'm already up to a shutter count of 71,769 on my camera. At this shoot I did the enclosed arena also and had a lot of trouble at the barrel I was shooting at with the horse or rider turning yellow. It was right under a vapor light. In another arena I had no trouble with lighting as I was shooting into a wall that had no light coming from it. Despite all the trouble I have sold over $1000 in pictures and I still have 1500 to post. The orders are coming in fast and furious but I would really like to give them the best I can.
From the indor under the vapor light
Mar 27, 2013 14:04:53 #
there is a lady here that shoots all the horse shows arabian, palamino, trotters an other events. she had 5 sync lights around the arena on the rail fence all fired at same time each shot. she told me what they were but have forgotten. the light portion was about 4 in. in diamater each light had thier own battery pack. she had some samples on display. all were pretty much on. she said it was only way to defeat the varying light problems. if you would like "pm" me an when i see her again i will ask again an send the info. to you.
Mar 27, 2013 14:29:22 #
OnDSnap wrote:
If you are referring to the blue cast below the horses nostrils, could it be his (the horses) warm moist breath in a cool atmosphere in the ring, refracting cool ambient light? Also, zoomed in on the download, looks like a lot of color noise... a lot noisier than ISO 640. Is this cropped?
Yes it is cropped. The blue shows up sometimes all over the body of the horse or on the dirt behind the horse. It was a cold morning when we started at 34%.
Mar 27, 2013 16:58:23 #
CurreyPhoto
Loc: Reddick, Florida
Mrsmoses wrote:
Thanks everyone for your answeres. I know I need ... (show quote)
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