Why Liberals Should Be Christians
Mar 24, 2013 21:39:57 #
There will be no Second Amendment in Heaven, or in the New Earth to follow.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
Mar 24, 2013 22:22:37 #
johnr9999
Loc: Carlton, OR
SteveR
As a veteran (medical) and devout Christian, I agree with you entirely.
I still feel that the presence of state welfare is a failure of the churches. We should be supporting our own poor and sick and as we do that more will be drawn to us for our love. A good friend of mine said that after the rapid expansion of Christianity in the 1st and 2nd century, Satan pondered on it and said, "What a great idea! I think I'll organize it." Don't be misled, I attend church regularly (but not religiously).
As a veteran (medical) and devout Christian, I agree with you entirely.
I still feel that the presence of state welfare is a failure of the churches. We should be supporting our own poor and sick and as we do that more will be drawn to us for our love. A good friend of mine said that after the rapid expansion of Christianity in the 1st and 2nd century, Satan pondered on it and said, "What a great idea! I think I'll organize it." Don't be misled, I attend church regularly (but not religiously).
Mar 25, 2013 06:55:25 #
SteveR wrote:
There will be no Second Amendment in Heaven, or in the New Earth to follow.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
If I could wave my magic wand, I would abolish ALL religions from earth, then the weapons of aggression would be obsolete.
Mar 25, 2013 07:20:04 #
Bunko.T wrote:
quote=SteveR There will be no Second Amendment in... (show quote)
Of course we know that all wars were started by religion. The problem is not religion, it is bad people that do things in the name of religion. Evil exists everywhere. I know atheists don't think there is any such thing as a bad atheist, but then again they always think they are the only ones who are right.
Mar 25, 2013 07:28:56 #
SteveR wrote:
There will be no Second Amendment in Heaven, or in the New Earth to follow.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
If I had my druthers, all guns and weapons of warfare and aggression would be eliminated. Wars would cease, and we'd use our energies and resources to solve the problems of the poor and third world countries.
That's the world is I would have it. Unfortunately, we live in a different world.
Read your Bible. People have been killing people since the beginning of time. They used rock's, knives, swords, & ect. You do have a good dream though. :thumbup:
Mar 25, 2013 07:47:19 #
Think about human nature as far back as recorded history goes. It is filled with conflict and war. Will never change.
Mar 25, 2013 07:58:02 #
prossiter wrote:
I know atheists don't think there is any such thing as a bad atheist, but then again they always think they are the only ones who are right.
I know atheists don't think there is any such thing as a bad atheist, but then again they always think they are the only ones who are right.
Really? Where do you get that impression? I know a lot of atheists (their numbers are growing) and some are good, some are bad. Your faith, or lack of it, has nothing to do with your being a good or bad person. :thumbup:
Mar 25, 2013 08:31:56 #
Gnslngr wrote:
Really? Where do you get that impression? I know a lot of atheists (their numbers are growing) and some are good, some are bad. Your faith, or lack of it, has nothing to do with your being a good or bad person. :thumbup:
prossiter wrote:
I know atheists don't think there is any such thing as a bad atheist, but then again they always think they are the only ones who are right.
I know atheists don't think there is any such thing as a bad atheist, but then again they always think they are the only ones who are right.
Really? Where do you get that impression? I know a lot of atheists (their numbers are growing) and some are good, some are bad. Your faith, or lack of it, has nothing to do with your being a good or bad person. :thumbup:
You are quite right.
:thumbup:
Mar 25, 2013 08:33:48 #
Bunko.T wrote:
quote=SteveR There will be no Second Amendment in... (show quote)
Don't think so, because there would still be evil. One fact we cannot ignore.
Mar 25, 2013 08:53:30 #
It is a nice thought, but a utopian one. We are the ultimate form of the animals that occupy this earth. Cunning, greedy, selfish, mean and cruel. That doesn't mean we don't do some good deeds because we also possess concience, but the id and the ego is always in a state of conflict.
Religion, as it was originally intended, was a good thing. It advocated goodness in humans. But the moment it was born, it became a tool for those who wanted to use it to gain power. If we didn't have any religion, we would invent one, which is how the whole thing had sterted in the first place. To put an explanation to things we could not explain otherwise. To be a good, decent person, one does not need religion, and just because one has religion does not make him or her a good person. As for wars, as long as someone has what someone else wants, we will keep having them.
Religion, as it was originally intended, was a good thing. It advocated goodness in humans. But the moment it was born, it became a tool for those who wanted to use it to gain power. If we didn't have any religion, we would invent one, which is how the whole thing had sterted in the first place. To put an explanation to things we could not explain otherwise. To be a good, decent person, one does not need religion, and just because one has religion does not make him or her a good person. As for wars, as long as someone has what someone else wants, we will keep having them.
Mar 25, 2013 09:15:55 #
lovesphotos wrote:
It is a nice thought, but a utopian one. We are th... (show quote)
Well said, and true.
:thumbup:
Mar 25, 2013 09:22:15 #
Bunko.T wrote:
quote=SteveR There will be no Second Amendment in... (show quote)
Just as the weapons of aggression became obsolete under Joe Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Idi Amin and Pol Pot?
Mar 25, 2013 10:00:49 #
Someone posted here a dialog that was attributed to Einstein, suggesting that there is NO evil in the world, but merely the absence of good. If anyone has been watching the mini-series "The Bible" on tv, it covers some of the violence within the "church". Also, the disciple Peter, was something of a hot-head. A disciple who carried a sword!
Mar 25, 2013 10:48:23 #
Mar 25, 2013 11:23:56 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
johnr9999 wrote:
SteveR br As a veteran (medical) and devout Chri... (show quote)
so who is your poor and sick? Are they members of your group or simply people who are poor and sick?
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